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Bond18
09-23-2007, 03:24 AM
Despite people at the FT claiming he sucks, charder30 went on to lay down some pwnage. Here's the link:

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA84256/4341_20070919_183008/4341

ZJ123
09-23-2007, 04:21 AM
after hand 380 u have to manually click thru the final 100 hands or so b/c the HH ends, it also misses some other bug hands like where i 4 bet with 66 against the same guy who 3 bet me when i had AQhh and K4dd..

mikeJ
09-23-2007, 03:47 PM
I reviewed the first 200 hands so far.

Hand 73: Are you just betting to protect your hand because you figure he doesn't have an A? Are
you betting turn even if you didn't hit 9?

Hand 82: I raise this

Hand 88: Plan after calling flop? I would just fold to the bet.

Hand 105: Any particular reason why you cbet so small?

Hand 131: I typically lead flop. But a lot of people like c/c. I just feel that leaves you in a crap spot too often if you c/c flop and he fires turn.

Hand 133: i'm ok w/ iso preflop. Flop bet is fine, I'd just muck river, ur not good there 1 in 5.5 times, imo.

Hand 134: If you had a read, sure. But if BB is an unknown, I don't think he's usually squeezing.

Hand 186: Read?

Hand 190: I just lead the flop. You're right that you disguise your hand a lot, but I still think these guys aren't going to bluff @ this pot. It looks like your flop check faked gboro out and he put you on an outright bluff on turn.

ZJ123
09-24-2007, 05:08 AM
bump, ill review after my midterm mike /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bond18
09-24-2007, 08:10 AM
ZJ, i'll definately review this later. To intoxicated now. Fizzuckin arab crooks and what not.

ZJ123
09-24-2007, 02:38 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I reviewed the first 200 hands so far.

Hand 73: Are you just betting to protect your hand because you figure he doesn't have an A? Are
you betting turn even if you didn't hit 9?

Hand 82: I raise this

Hand 88: Plan after calling flop? I would just fold to the bet.

Hand 105: Any particular reason why you cbet so small?

Hand 131: I typically lead flop. But a lot of people like c/c. I just feel that leaves you in a crap spot too often if you c/c flop and he fires turn.

Hand 133: i'm ok w/ iso preflop. Flop bet is fine, I'd just muck river, ur not good there 1 in 5.5 times, imo.

Hand 134: If you had a read, sure. But if BB is an unknown, I don't think he's usually squeezing.

Hand 186: Read?

Hand 190: I just lead the flop. You're right that you disguise your hand a lot, but I still think these guys aren't going to bluff @ this pot. It looks like your flop check faked gboro out and he put you on an outright bluff on turn.

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73: i was c/f if i didnt improve(at least the flop, i might of fired any turn), that board is just really ugly and hes short.

82: ya, i dont think a fold is crimnal and i open there a lot, but i decided to fold.

88: i have QQ here, do u mean another hand?

105: he was really bad limped almost everyhand and was very straight forward, hes never floating me or calling me without a pair, i def. continuation more against a good player.

131: meh, i think betting is fine, and checking is ok. I mix it up, im not sure why i min bet turn, that was kinda stupid, o well

133: ya that was stupid, he played so straight forward, i made a lot of mistakes against him (donkey from AQ and Q3 hand)

134: BB is a good aggresive player, i believe its AK87 on stars and he we have some history, this hand seemed standard to me, though it might be a bit spewy.

186: not really lol, i know hes aggressive and good, and i dont have a real reason why i did it, just mix it up i guess. lol

190:Yeah this hand was pretty interesting, i got a PM from gboro after this hand. I pretty much decided before the flop came out i was going to check most flops, because of the aggressive good players to my left. And i new a c/r would get no respect, so i decided to take that line. And when it was checked around i obv had to bet turn.

mikeJ
09-24-2007, 03:08 PM
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88: i have QQ here, do u mean another hand?

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Yes, I was referring to hand 89.

Hand 256: No stab on flop?

Hand 257: Thoughts on flatcalling here?

1) If PFR was unknown, would you call?
2) How shallow would he have to be before you play the JQs? (Villain is still timex)

Hand 262: I just bet/call turn

Hand 323: Nice one.

Hand 339: Meh, that seems like a really big shove, but is not so bad because of his big preflop raise. Didn't we talk about this type of spot, bond? I forget what we said already. I think it may be worth making that big reraise now, so that your opponent is easier to resteal from in the future.

The PXF replayer keeps spazzing out, so I'll stop here.

aaaaaaaa
09-24-2007, 06:49 PM
i was the one HU with him he raped me. almost literally.

betgo
09-24-2007, 06:59 PM
No big mistakes.

88. & 99. Maybe a bet size tell.
133. As I mentioned in other reviews, I much prefer a limp behind on the button with 44 to a raise.
190. I think you have to cbet KQ on the KQ4 2-flush flop into 3 players. The check is pretty bad.
193. I would call the raise in the BB with 43s.

Butcho22
09-24-2007, 07:25 PM
Hand #89 I can understand calling the flop, but seems like an auto-shutdown when he fires big on the turn.

You've shown about as much strength as you could up to that point, yet he still obv wants to play for stacks on the turn when he bets as much as he did.

Curious what you put him on for this hand.

ZJ123
09-24-2007, 08:33 PM
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Hand #89 I can understand calling the flop, but seems like an auto-shutdown when he fires big on the turn.

You've shown about as much strength as you could up to that point, yet he still obv wants to play for stacks on the turn when he bets as much as he did.

Curious what you put him on for this hand.

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i dearly misplayed this hand, i was really kicking myself after this, i mentioned he played straight forward, then i do this.

ZJ123
09-24-2007, 08:41 PM
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88: i have QQ here, do u mean another hand?

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Yes, I was referring to hand 89.

Hand 256: No stab on flop?

Hand 257: Thoughts on flatcalling here?

1) If PFR was unknown, would you call?
2) How shallow would he have to be before you play the JQs? (Villain is still timex)

Hand 262: I just bet/call turn

Hand 323: Nice one.

Hand 339: Meh, that seems like a really big shove, but is not so bad because of his big preflop raise. Didn't we talk about this type of spot, bond? I forget what we said already. I think it may be worth making that big reraise now, so that your opponent is easier to resteal from in the future.

The PXF replayer keeps spazzing out, so I'll stop here.

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89: horribly played by me

256: i bet here sometime, and raise pre sometime, just varies

257: flat calling def. has some merits but i decided that being OOP against a good player is not worth it, had we been deeper i might of tried and owned my backer.

262: meh, i like c/r allin there, but i bet sometimes esp, against good players im familiar with.

323: yeah we went to war a couple times and he 3 bet lighter then anyone i have ever seen.

339: yeah i thought about making it 20k and shoving the flop and even considered flat calling, but decided on shoving.

ZJ123
09-26-2007, 12:46 AM
bump

ZJ123
09-27-2007, 02:07 AM
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bump

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darkcheck_
09-28-2007, 04:07 AM
lookin over this now, will finish tomorrow and post thoughts

darkcheck_
10-02-2007, 05:54 AM
most of my notes have been covered of course:

133: that river call just doesnt seem profitable vs most players...and def not vs that particular player, just a lapse on your part i assume?

419: i was surprised u didnt lead this flop...

bigfreedie agg [censored], u handled it very well it seemed

congrats on the win albeit a week ago