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popeye18
09-22-2007, 03:06 AM
Villain is tight pf, no stats but i would estimte like 15/6.

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Button ($53.25)
SB ($12.50)
BB ($25.20)
UTG ($22.85)
Hero ($25.30)
CO ($113.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3.5</font>, Hero folds,

sightless
09-22-2007, 03:07 AM
shove

popeye18
09-22-2007, 03:14 AM
Sorry for the repost. I have no idea if a squeeze is a play he would make yet.

sightless
09-22-2007, 03:18 AM
I probably like a fold in this spot if you think he only does this with jj+ ako+ just becase its bad to play it postflop vs tight player

n0ctu2ne
09-22-2007, 03:30 AM
I'm not sure I like the fold. You've got position and are in position to take his stack if you hit hard. I'd recommend you get more aggressive with it, or at least take it to the flop. He's going to have to show you a high PP for you to back down.

popeye18
09-22-2007, 03:33 AM
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I'm not sure I like the fold. You've got position and are in position to take his stack if you hit hard. I'd recommend you get more aggressive with it, or at least take it to the flop. He's going to have to show you a high PP for you to back down.

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It seems pretty hard for me to hit this flop hard and be able to get his stack.

yegon
09-22-2007, 03:35 AM
without reads I consider a first couple of pf reraises from an unknown player being tight (JJ+,AK) and fold. If I see him doing this a couple of times I consider him a light reraiser and would raise him back to about 12-14$ and calling a shove pf.

yegon
09-22-2007, 03:40 AM
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I'm not sure I like the fold. You've got position and are in position to take his stack if you hit hard. I'd recommend you get more aggressive with it, or at least take it to the flop. He's going to have to show you a high PP for you to back down.

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if his pfrr range is like JJ+, AK what flop are you happy with? Obviously one pair can cost you your stack more often than get you his, even two pair is behind to his set a big % of the time. If he has JJ, QQ he will not pay you off if A or K hits. There is almost no way around winning small/losing big if he is a tight raiser. This is a simple fold against an unknown player - the fact that it is NL25 makes it even simpler - you won't see many loose raisers there.

ama0330
09-22-2007, 06:53 AM
With your read, its an easy fold. This is totally read dependant. If you think he only does this with JJ+,AK then you should fold.

mvdgaag
09-22-2007, 07:18 AM
hmmm.. Unless he's megatight I think folding is rediculous.

You can shove AK as you do AA/KK for shania... If he's folding JJ- you've just picked up a nice pot and if he's not you are only about a 2:3 dog against JJ+ and AK, But in that case he's also calling when you push AA/KK here, so that's good news.

maciczka
09-22-2007, 07:23 AM
omfg omfg
how bad is that?

call or push ffs

Spanky1974
09-22-2007, 07:46 AM
I'm cool with folding this against a tight player that hasn't 3bet you before.

MrWooster
09-22-2007, 08:27 AM
A call is bad here - assuming he is doing this with JJ+ AK, if you hit the flop he is either crushing you with a set, or folding because he has an underpair, so by calling you achieve nothing. If you read his range to be JJ+ then this is a fold, otherwise you need to re-raise/push.