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syn
09-21-2007, 04:05 PM
ok, on flop im sure im beat here 100% of the time, can i fold this without a read?


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Hero ($77.45)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($32.50)
UTG ($68.70)
MP ($63.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12.50) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $43.5</font>, Hero calls $25.50.

Turn: ($99.50) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($99.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $99.50

wslee00
09-21-2007, 04:08 PM
I'd actually just call the flop, check behind on turn, bet river.

as played, fold when SB 3-bets you on the flop - he's saying he can beat a pair of queens.

z28dreams
09-21-2007, 04:08 PM
Easy fold in my opinion. TT,JJ,AK isn't going to b/3b the flop. What do you think you're ahead of? People don't typically r/r w/ KQ or b3b. The only real draw out there is JT...

Also, you could probably flat call the flop since you have only one pair and it's a pretty dry board.

-sk00lb0y-
09-21-2007, 04:09 PM
If you are sure that you are beaten 100% of the time then isn't that a read?

Subzero_Wins
09-21-2007, 04:13 PM
Looks like a snap call to me, especially button vs. SB.

Board: Qc 9s 4d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 72.330% 53.86% 18.47% 8532 2925.00 { QQ+, AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 27.670% 09.20% 18.47% 1458 2925.00 { AhQh }

Agree calling the flop is much better. Also if he isn't 3-betting you lightly you should fold preflop.

syn
09-21-2007, 04:19 PM
he was not 3betting lightly. so i fold pf? that makes sense, but for some reason this time i thought id play, had mroe then 3-1 and had AQs with position, but looks like it got me in a whole mess of trouble

okay, if i call the flop, and he shoves turn, will be an equally hard decision i think, but i think i call that more more likely than calling this 3bet all in on flop

yeah i agree though, fold pf looks good since he wasnt 3betting light

traz
09-21-2007, 04:25 PM
Raising the flop is pretty bad, just call next time. I usually fold pf against an unknown

thoman8r
09-21-2007, 04:47 PM
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okay, if i call the flop, and he shoves turn, will be an equally hard decision i think, but i think i call that more more likely than calling this 3bet all in on flop


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No, a turn shove for more than the pot is a really easy fold, unless this guy is a complete over-aggro donkey. What worse hands is he shoving?

Subzero_Wins
09-21-2007, 04:54 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ JJ/AJ

wikemang
09-21-2007, 05:00 PM
Easy fold to his flop 3bet. I would also just call the flop and see what the turn brings.