50NL to go or not to go ?

[Tib]

Vilain is 19/11/3

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $195.91
BB: $49.25
UTG: $40.15
CO: $50.11
BTN: $93.36

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00

Flop: ($24.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $183.91</font>


good or not ?

[UptownExpress]

This looks ok, since folding to his preflop raise is probably out of the question. You can't fold the flop. calling isn't bad either. if the board pairs u can get away easy. preflop u might consider just calling.

[aka_bebel]

Any reads on BTN?
I would just fold this PF.

FLOP: You are both deep and I don't like it.(I could be weak tight)

[Heine]

getting 2.6 to 1 is pretty decent w/ FD and a GS. Villain isn't folding his AA/KK, or AK. No reason to raise, like this. We have plenty of outs, and its a 4 bet pot. He isn't folding much (jj and QQ if he 4 bets with those). I like a call on the flop and c/f un-improved on the turn.

Dbitel had a great analysis of combo draws in one of his videos. The point was, they aren't folding TP here EVER. So this play is bad given his range and flop texture.

[aka_bebel]

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Any reads on BTN?
I would just fold this PF.

FLOP: You are both deep and I don't like it.(I could be weak tight)

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EDIT : FOLD PF when he 4bets you

[popeye18]

I dont like folding pf. Theres a really good chance your dominated but your both deep and with the pretty big pot pf youi have a decent chance of stacking him if u nail the flop and you shouldnt have a problem getting away from the hand if you dont.

[mookboi]

Standard both PF and flop. I mean.. he min 4bet, we already put in 7, and we are 200 deep.

I like flop. Ton of fold equity, NFD, straight draw. Unless he got KK, we are pretty much flipping. I get it in here all the time. This is the flop we were looking for when 3betting &amp; calling 4bet preflop.

[Milky]

Yeah, you really can't fold pf and I play this the same way (pf). On the flop I think it's close and I don't think either way you play it (calling or c/rai) is that bad. I don't think you have a lot of FE though. The only hands he'd fold are JJ/QQ and he's calling w/AA/KK/AK.

[traz]

Calling PF is questionable even with deepstacks and the good odds being given. I think it's hugely rio and villain is likely to get away from his hand unless he has us crushed, plus we're oop.

I don't think there's any FE on the flop, so I'm not a fan of the raise.

[wslee00]

you have close to 0 FE on the flop. I'd just call hoping to hit (most likely stacking him) and if I don't - I'm ok with just folding to the inevitable all-in on the turn.

[aka_bebel]

We are both deep.(200 bb)
He is never folding AA and I doubt he folds AK,don't think he is 4betting AQ PF so I don't know why is everybody so happy to get it in 2 buy ins deep.

Board: Td 8d Kh
Hand 0: 42.694% 42.33% 00.36% 6286 54.00 { AdQd }
Hand 1: 57.306% 56.94% 0 845 54.00 { KK+, AcKc, AhKh, AsKs, AKo }

Isn't this a hight variance move ?When he calls we are always behind in a huge pot.

Also what do you do when you call PF oop his 4bet and you have an Axx flop?

As played I like calling that flop.
I could be a nit but I hate playing hands like this oop

[mookboi]

After posting the first response, I was like "wow, we really don't have a TON of FE, maybe some," but I was too lazy to correct it.

I still push though.

[aka_bebel]

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After posting the first response, I was like "wow, we really don't have a TON of FE, maybe some," but I was too lazy to correct it.

I still push though.

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Don't we like FE in these spots ?We want FE and in case he calls we have outs.
Don't you think is bad pushing a draw when you have little or no FE ?

As I looked at pokerstove(don't know if I put him on a good range but from his PF play I think he liked his hand a lot ) we were 42/57 .

[.xxxx.]

don't you have any reads on this guy? you both have stacks at this table and the table has to have some sort of flow to it.

How light have the 3bets been? What range have you 3bet him already? Him, you?