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jerryf1914
09-20-2007, 06:37 PM
this guy was running 15/11/5.9 why do i not put him in on the turn?

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SB: $12.75
Hero (BB): $24.40
UTG: $9.65
MP: $25.85
CO: $55.55
BTN: $24.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.00</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.75</font>, BTN calls $1.75

Turn: ($5.60) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00

River: ($21.60) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Pot Size: $21.60 ($1.05 Rake)

thac
09-20-2007, 06:41 PM
More of a question is why would you just call with a hand that's probably beating BTN's range? I think I 3-bet this to 3.50 pre, but since you didn't...

I don't think I donk here ever. It depends on the villain, but most 15/11s are c-betting a LOT, especially with his AF. I'd try to c/c and donk the turn, it's a lot fishier than bet/bet and it might induce a raise on the turn from a hand like JJ or TT cause he think's you're FOS.

When he minraises, you're only beat by 44, A9, AK. You pretty much have the effective nuts against a BTN raiser, and I would either 3-bet there, or call and shove river.

Keitan
09-20-2007, 06:50 PM
I try trapping here big time.. c/c flop.. check turn - if he bets call, if he checks go for a c/r on the river.. If he checks behind again on river I would be surprised and you probably couldn't get much more value playing any other way.

But that's just my preference.. I think there are many good lines here like the one thac suggested, but I don't think leading the flop is one of them.

I would also 3bet PF

panda
09-20-2007, 06:57 PM
3 bet is crucial, I hate playing AQs out of position even as the pfr in a raised pot, let alone the caller.

Leviathan101
09-20-2007, 07:02 PM
3 bet pre

check/call flop

check/raise turn

bet river.

C4LL4W4Y
09-20-2007, 07:03 PM
3bet pre, as played b/3bai turn. he seems to like his hand, and if he has AK or a FH its a pure cooler.

panda
09-20-2007, 07:04 PM
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3 bet pre

check/call flop

check/raise turn

bet river.

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I def c bet this flop if I 3 bet because I don't think you should ever really not do so at this limit.

Poker's Busmalis
09-20-2007, 07:11 PM
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3 bet pre

check/call flop

check/raise turn

bet river.

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I def c bet this flop if I 3 bet because I don't think you should ever really not do so at this limit.

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Yah. And other thing to consider: People check flops with AA (and other monsters like FH) after 3betting pf all the time trying to CRAI. It's so obvious.

Leviathan101
09-20-2007, 10:44 PM
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3 bet pre

check/call flop

check/raise turn

bet river.

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I def c bet this flop if I 3 bet because I don't think you should ever really not do so at this limit.

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Yah. And other thing to consider: People check flops with AA (and other monsters like FH) after 3betting pf all the time trying to CRAI. It's so obvious.

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I meant as played c/c the flop. Obv cbet if you 3 bet preflop.

Lego05
09-21-2007, 02:20 AM
3bet pre-flop for the love of god.


If misclick and just call don't lead the flop.

I don't know why you don't put all your chips in.