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Tib
09-20-2007, 06:33 PM
Vilain is 28/14/1
is this a good/horrible play?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $88.27
BB: $47.67
UTG: $46.31
CO: $64.47
BTN: $48.94

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, CO calls $8.00

Turn: ($28.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($28.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $26.50</font>

thac
09-20-2007, 06:37 PM
I hate it .. preflop is bad against a 28/14 because he's more on the passive side preflop, he doesn't raise very much in comparison to how often he plays a hand.

On the flop, I don't mind a c/r since you got a decent draw, but if you're gonna c/r and he calls, you have to bluff the turn if you want any credibility to your bluff. Since you didn't, and the draw came in, I would just give up.

Also - try not to bluff too many of the passive donkish type players, save that stuff for the regs. Just play straightforward and own the donks as best you can.

thing85
09-20-2007, 06:40 PM
This looks pretty ugly..I would 3bet PF and lead flop. I guess your line could probably work, but it looks like spewing to me. What would you have done if the river wasn't a flush card?

thac
09-20-2007, 06:42 PM
Also, if you're determined to bluff this river, 18 works just as good as 26.5, and you save 8 big bets just by not betting so much.

Ramana
09-20-2007, 07:15 PM
RR or fold pf. Everything else in this hand is spew/donk play.

Tib
09-21-2007, 04:50 AM
If the river wasn't a club, I would'have c/f. Can you explain why a Reraise/fold preflop is better with KQ ?

Lego05
09-21-2007, 04:54 AM
I don't like calling OOP pre-flop with KQo (I don't like it too much in position for that matter). Either 3bet or fold pre-flop.


I don't love the flop check/raise bluff but alright.


Ahh...I guess you could try to rep the flush on the river there.



I think taking this line is generally pretty spewy though.

terrible
09-21-2007, 05:25 AM
needs to work way too much to be profitable, it's totally unnecessary at these levels and a flush trying to get value on the river doesn't bet 26.50 into a 28.50 pot /images/graemlins/tongue.gif