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juggler97531
09-20-2007, 03:01 PM
I have history with Villian - before this hand i stacked him couple of times and he can be tilting against me. He is about 40/15/1 donkastic, very rude and offensive chat.

I was feeling kinda lost in this hand. I think i should have cbet.
When i missed the flop bet however the rest of the hand seems natural. River is bet/fold... or is it?

Comments on all hand plz.

Ongame Pot Limit Hold'em BB($0.50)

UTG: $50.60
CO: $65.15
Button: $50.00
SB: $21.60
Hero: $67.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.0</font>, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, CO calls $3.0

Flop: ($9.0) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($9.0) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.0</font>, CO calls $5.0

River: ($19.0) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="red">Hero bets $12.0</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $35.0</font>, Hero ??

DaycareInferno
09-20-2007, 03:08 PM
i like just betting the flop there, even though there's not a lot of value to it. its a pretty safe board, so you should take down the pot or be ahead enough of the time that i think i like it more than being oop and trying to snap off bets or stop-and-go for value. i also hate playing in the dark against tards much more than more rational players.

Keitan
09-20-2007, 03:29 PM
I cbet - makes the hand much easier to play. Once you check the flop I like a check on the turn as well and see how villain responds. It's really hard to put you on a solid hand when you check the flop then lead the turn, so I expect you'd be played back at a lot in this spot.

KCrow
09-20-2007, 03:42 PM
Cbet the flop, check the turn and bet fold the river. I'd probably fold to a bet on the turn and wait for a better spot to win a big pot against this villain. Too many hands have you beat after the turn.

NL Newbie
09-20-2007, 04:19 PM
The reason to bet this flop would mainly be protection and charging FD's. So we want QQ to fold, we want flushes to chase without odds.


Checking here will induce bluffs, so if he bets the flop you may end up folding the best hand.

So a line i'd take is probably a more passive line, the flop is tricky though.


So one line could be bet the flop, check the turn and if hebets fold(flush hit, Kx calls then bets).

Another line would be to check the flop, if he checks then bet the turn and finally check the river. The call would depend on if he would check a Kx behind and bluff without the flush.


never bet call this river, Check call or bet fold.

I actually prefer check-call aaoinst somneone who is aggrro and maybe tilting.

xeanatic
09-20-2007, 04:42 PM
I cbet this flop, as played I like check calling the river, it induces bluffs from a possible tilting villian and keeps the pot as small as possible.