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siv
09-20-2007, 03:45 AM
What do you do on turn without reads? Baluga?
How about river?
What if villain has TAGish stats?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $30.35
BB: $16.55
Hero (UTG): $25.00
MP: $32.60
CO: $9.45
BTN: $30.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($2.25) Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 4http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $7.00</font>, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($19.25) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8.25</font>

Pot Size: $27.50

CrustyFace
09-20-2007, 04:04 AM
I'm folding here. He is unlikely to be drawing, smells like a set to me.

bozzer
09-20-2007, 04:58 AM
without reads i bet more on flop and check turn most of the time. i could see a turn bet against plenty of 'unknowns' though.

as played turn is a fold because he's rarely checking the river.

the tags range includes less draws so i'm less likely to bet the turn.

whyzze
09-20-2007, 05:00 AM
I play it the same as long as you call river.

emeraldice
09-20-2007, 05:13 AM
Really, it seems like you miss value checking this turn? Most sets probably raise flop besides 99. Seems against most aggressive opponents this is a call turn, call river?

irondrift
09-20-2007, 07:37 AM
IMO you're ahead here about 0% of the time. What does he play this way that you beat? This has turned into a big pot and in this situation you don't have a big hand.

He calls the flop bet (which was too light) and then raises the turn when an apparently meaningless card comes off. Then the board pairs on the river and he leads out! Not only that his bet size is screaming, "Please play back at me."

Just my opinion.

monkover
09-20-2007, 08:24 AM
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I play it the same as long as you call river.

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why would you call the riveR? this is like pure sucide here vs a tag

TheRenaissance
09-20-2007, 08:30 AM
Fold turn readless.
If villain is a tag reg and semi decent he is just messing with you (cc flop/cminr turn??? cmon) - call him down. Or he could be a lousy player with a preflop chart - which makes it a turn fold again.