25nl slow down with a full house?

[rothko]

villain just showed up at table. no numbers or reads, yet.

was i right to slow down and check turn? what do i do after i checked and villain bets?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed)
Button ($31.80)
Hero ($62.80)
BB ($42.85)
UTG ($23.25)
MP ($25.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.25) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.75</font>, UTG calls $2.75.

Turn: ($8.75) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5.25</font>, Hero?

[Subzero_Wins]

Fold.

I would c/f any non-9 turn on that board.

[VLV]

I would fold this. But just a question in addition to the original post, would your answer change if that T was an 8?

[vixticator]

In a 3bet pot this is an easy fold. Here, much closer. I think he could very well be drawing dead now and consider betting turn. Either you are drawing dead or he is. Hard to say. Since OOP c/f is probably the best play. I can see a case for betting though. If we have positon here and he checks again... I bet for value but it's thin-ish.

[Keitan]

Fold, played fine, beat majority of time.

[VLV]

Just stoved it for kicks,

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.365% 47.14% 03.23% 1680 115.00 { 9d9h }
Hand 1: 49.635% 46.41% 03.23% 1654 115.00 { QQ-22, A8s+, KTs, JTs, T9s, ATo+ }

[rothko]

[ QUOTE ]
Just stoved it for kicks,

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.365% 47.14% 03.23% 1680 115.00 { 9d9h }
Hand 1: 49.635% 46.41% 03.23% 1654 115.00 { QQ-22, A8s+, KTs, JTs, T9s, ATo+ }

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what does this mean? is that pf? once villain called flop, can we eliminate some of these hands thereby decreasing my equity and thus justifying the fold? sorry, not very good with this stuff.

[GengisKum]

yes, that is preflop. on the flop looks like this:

Board: Ac As Tc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.702% 39.77% 01.94% 38187 1859.50 { 9d9h }
Hand 1: 58.298% 56.36% 01.94% 54124 1859.50 { QQ-22, A8s+, KTs, JTs, T9s, ATo+ }


btw I would use A5s+ or A4s+ too maybe.

EDIT: sorry didn't add the turn.

Board: Ac As Tc Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.365% 47.14% 03.23% 1680 115.00 { 9d9h }
Hand 1: 49.635% 46.41% 03.23% 1654 115.00 { QQ-22, A8s+, KTs, JTs, T9s, ATo+ }

[rothko]

i should learn how to use this stuff.

[Genz]

Villain will probably bet any pair here if he is somewhat aggressive and he won't let go of a full house. He won't fold 22 here. He limp/called preflop, so I don't think he has KK-TT. I don't assume that an unknown will bet Khi or Qhi in this spot. And of course there is an outside chance that he has the case A. So the hands that you are worried about are the broadways with a T and T9, T8s. KT, QT, JT make for 36 combos. 22-88 make 42 combos. Add some suited As and you are pretty much even in combos. But you are oop so you can't control the action much and every overcard is ugly. You can't flat call and block because he might raise and you will have a hard time folding with given stack sizes. You can't call and check, because you might face a shove getting 2:1 in a big pot with about equal chance that you are ahead or behind (given a blank river).
So while I think that you have a great chance to be best here, that hand is costly to be played oop and has bad reverse implied odds. I think you should fold. If I had any read on this guy that he is pretty aggressive, I'd crai.