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zach383z

09-20-2007, 01:26 AM

This hand is against a tough, yet exploitable TAG, 16/13 over 200 hands... Regardless of his tight image, I never know the correct move on this flop...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

UTG ($24.65)
MP ($25.55)
CO ($6.30)
Button ($5)
SB ($9.20)
Hero ($31.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.75, MP calls $2.75.

Flop: ($7.60) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, MP raises to $12, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $23.35

Is my bet just way too weak or what do you guys do in this position...

Edited: realized I put the wrong stats for villian

bsball8806

09-20-2007, 01:32 AM

If you're going to lead out at this pot, you have to bet more, ~5.50. 3.75 to me just screams feeler bet with a lower PP. Obviously fold to his raise.

Like you, I never know exactly what to do in this situation. I usually end up betting and folding to a raise (which usually ends up being AK or AQ)

Hail Eris

09-20-2007, 01:39 AM

I think I call and C/RAI turn. 17/16 probably isn't flatcalling AK a lot, and even if he did, I've never seen any TAG on Stars raise AK in this spot.

Edit: Didn't read stacks right. It's still call down or shove though.

vixticator

09-20-2007, 01:53 AM

Yeah, I hate this spot too. Don't bet so small on flop unless that is standard size, looks weak and invites raises. The only problem with checking is kind of says "Hi, I have Kings. Plz don't bet." On this board in 3bet pot I expect him to bet anything if you check. So, I'm inclined to bet more on flop and fold to raise. MAYBE c/f instead.

cb4mvp

09-20-2007, 01:59 AM

I'd b/f. Like vixicator said, checking basically makes your hand face up and begs for a cheap showdown.

And CRAI the turn?? Wtf?

Keitan

09-20-2007, 02:01 AM

I just b/f in these spots. Bet more on flop. But i think c/c then folding to a turn bet is a good line also against smart villains that know when to take a stab but also when to fold - if turn gets checked through bet river for value/fold to a raise.

tarheeljks

09-20-2007, 02:22 AM

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Yeah, I hate this spot too. Don't bet so small on flop unless that is standard size, looks weak and invites raises. The only problem with checking is kind of says "Hi, I have Kings. Plz don't bet." On this board in 3bet pot I expect him to bet anything if you check. So, I'm inclined to bet more on flop and fold to raise. MAYBE c/f instead.

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inducing bluffs is a good thing; if villain will always bet if we check, then we should check here almost everytime. if he wants to turn TT-QQ into a bluff that is good for us