25nl - QQ in a huge pot

[johndenver]

Is my line ok here? I checked/called the turn for pot control because the pot size was getting kind of out of hand for my 1 pair... does that look ok?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($22.50)
MP ($8.15)
CO ($20.05)
Button ($32.50)
SB ($23.50)
Hero ($28.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, UTG calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, SB folds.

Flop: ($7.25) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, UTG calls $4.25, MP folds, CO folds.

Turn: ($15.75) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $6.75</font>, Hero calls $6.75.

River: ($29.25) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15.45 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $9.75 (All-In).

Final Pot: $48.75

[CruS]

ok so you are not folding to a bet on the turn, since you have a great hand here, so when you are calling that bet you are pot committed anyways. Just c/r him allin on the turn instead.

[Leviathan101]

Imo, the pot isn't big enough for your one pair. I bet every street. What are you worried about? He calls on the flop with a pair of Tens, and 89 and maybe a pair of sevens. He will probably dump less than top pair on the turn (you never know though), but still call with worse hands. River you have the nuts so obv push.

[mackthefork]

Yeah there is no pot control here, villians gonna put you in most of the time anyways on the river, I do same.

Mack

[UptownExpress]

i don't think u understand pot control.

sometimes u will call a turn for pot control in order to keep the pot small. but in this case the pot is already so big that u can no longer control it. so just put it on the turn.

[CruS]

Which line do you like best here, c/r turn or b/c turn?

[johndenver]

i guess what spooked me was the that he called my pretty large raise pf, i dont know if unknown does that with 89 or xT, i'm worried about a slowplayed AA-KK and sets

[mackthefork]

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i guess what spooked me was the that he called my pretty large raise pf, i dont know if unknown does that with 89 or xT, i'm worried about a slowplayed AA-KK and sets

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Okay thats all fine, but if you are going to continue then you have to push the turn I think, because you can't call for the two outer as you know, what did he have anyways?

Mack

[Leviathan101]

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i guess what spooked me was the that he called my pretty large raise pf, i dont know if unknown does that with 89 or xT, i'm worried about a slowplayed AA-KK and sets

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more often than not he has a speculative holding, and makes a decent pair he can't let go. You get called on every street by the guy with JTs who called looking for a flush and cant fold top pair.

[johndenver]

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i guess what spooked me was the that he called my pretty large raise pf, i dont know if unknown does that with 89 or xT, i'm worried about a slowplayed AA-KK and sets

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Okay thats all fine, but if you are going to continue then you have to push the turn I think, because you can't call for the two outer as you know, what did he have anyways?

Mack

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he had 22, i agree though i should have shoved the turn after he bet, i didnt think of the calling for 2 outs thing obv bad, i've just been running so bad and getting stacked on very similar hands to this lately i'm playing extra scared

[Hail Eris]

1) Pot control is not really a valid goal OOP when you're trying to get to showdown. Villain is in position, so he's going to decide the pot size, not you.

2) Any betting after the flop in this pot is committing. You can shove turn without overbetting.

3) Dude you have an overpair against a donk. You want this pot big, not small. You want his stack by the river.

[Subzero_Wins]

^^^^^^^^^^^ wow literally the 3 points I was going to make, nice job.