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Knoooby
09-16-2007, 05:38 AM
Hi, this is my first post so i hope i postet everyhing correctly.

Now about the hand, i for myself think i played it quite good but "somehow" i´m a losing player for one year and i like to take it serious now. please, i can need every advice

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($14.80)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.75)</font>
BB ($70.45)
UTG ($24.65)
MP ($15)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($17.35)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $23.25</font>, CO calls $9.85 (All-In).

Turn: ($35.20) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($35.20) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $35.20

i dont have any reads or stats about corinado.

whyzze
09-16-2007, 05:46 AM
I need a read to 3bai on this flop. It is way to coorindated for me to feel good about putting a stack in.

bet more on flop...closer to pot. the drawier the board the more you need to bet.

wooziephantom
09-16-2007, 06:02 AM
If u stack of with tptk to often, then we got the reason for you being a loosing player... The board is very coordinated and as whyzze points out, u gotta have a really read on your opponent to do this... The way I would have played this hand is either to fold to the flop-raise, or call and see if your opponent slows down to a non-heart turn.. This is so opponent dependant, and if ur gonna call it's important that u have a plan for the next two streets

kokiri
09-16-2007, 07:26 AM
Once you're raised on the flop, there's $11.75 in the pot, it's $3.75 for you to call and villain has $9.85 left.

Given stack sizes, I think calling the flop and folding the turn is pretty ugly, unless the turn is a really horrid card, so i'd rather get it in now, if at all. Equally, checking the turn lets villain see the river for free.

If you push and villain never folds, you are putting $13.70 in to win a pot of $35. You need 40% equity to be EV neutral. That's the sort of equity you have vs. {98, T9, JT, QTs}. Even adding 88,99 only reduces this to 35%, unless i'm mistaken. Add some worse hands/flush draws and I don't hate a push here. Equally, I don't think folding is terrible given the push is likely close to EV neutral, and high variance.