AA - do I have to go to the felt................

[mackthefork]

............after getting this much in preflop or is this a postflop leak vs loosish players.

Villian is 42/27 postflop aggression of 5.2 over 200 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

Button ($53.80)
SB ($66.85)
Hero ($49.75)
UTG ($55.25)
MP ($50.20)
CO ($95.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP folds, CO calls $5.50.

Flop: ($16.75) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $55.5</font>, Hero calls $21.75 (All-In).

Turn: ($114) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($114) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $114

Regards Mack

[Jamougha]

Why did you bet 20 into 17 on the flop?

And yes you do, especially on this board.

[whyzze]

booo overbet...yay villian shoving

[cb4mvp]

Oh yeah. If he has a set, that sucks, but I would get it in every single time against this guy.

[bored]

Fist pump

[mackthefork]

How much would you bet, I'm more likely to do something dumb like fold if i bet much less.

Mack

[whyzze]

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How much would you bet, I'm more likely to do something dumb like fold if i bet much less.

Mack

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[Gelford]

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How much would you bet, I'm more likely to do something dumb like fold if i bet much less.

Mack

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In reraised pots you more or less act like it was an sng, since you'll get all in anyway. So default is half pot with adjustments for board texture etc /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Edit:
Also in RR's pots default is going broke with overpair like AA

[Brian O'Nolan]

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Fist pump

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Don't fold AA in a standard size 3bet pot for 100 BB unless... uh... hmmm... OK don't fold it.

[ajmargarine]

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Oh yeah. If he has a set, that sucks, but I would get it in every single time against this guy.

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If by this guy, you mean every player ever in the history of poker, then yes, I agree.

[ajmargarine]

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How much would you bet, I'm more likely to do something dumb like fold if i bet much less.

Mack

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In reraised pots you more or less act like it was an sng, since you'll get all in anyway. So default is half pot with adjustments for board texture etc /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Edit:
Also in RR's pots default is going broke with overpair like AA

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Um, what? Bet enough on the flop so you have one bet left to put in on the turn.

[Keitan]

I bet 13.7 and sometimes 14.4 here

[z28dreams]

You're getting 4:1 to call here. There's no way you can fold.

Against a range of: QQ,KK,33,55,88 you're slightly ahead.

He was the PFR, which makes it even more likely he has a sucky overpair instead of the set. His aggression numbers are also insane.

Instacall, suck it up if he has the set this time.

[Gelford]

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How much would you bet, I'm more likely to do something dumb like fold if i bet much less.

Mack

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In reraised pots you more or less act like it was an sng, since you'll get all in anyway. So default is half pot with adjustments for board texture etc /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Edit:
Also in RR's pots default is going broke with overpair like AA

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Um, what? Bet enough on the flop so you have one bet left to put in on the turn.

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Sometimes you find yourself in a lot of RR's pots where you do not wish to go broke everytime (like holding 56s(in those cases half pots gets you all in on river anyway but keeps cbetting cheap

[Daniel LeClaire]

The question is why would you ever want to fold against this guy?

[mackthefork]

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You're getting 4:1 to call here. There's no way you can fold.

Against a range of: QQ,KK,33,55,88 you're slightly ahead.

He was the PFR, which makes it even more likely he has a sucky overpair instead of the set. His aggression numbers are also insane.

Instacall, suck it up if he has the set this time.

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He doesn't have KK or QQ he would have pushed, TT or JJ i thought he probably calls with AJ+ as well as any PP and christ knows what else, turned out he had 88, I should probably have bet more, because as it turns out he had the version of stars without a fold button, and I ended up getting 85% of the money in way behind as is the norm at the moment.

Mack

[RiverPlay]

I think that if you overbet you are doing it to get all in as soon as posible, or to muck if he folds. If you are worried about 55, and based on how you saw villian play you think that folding is a choice when facing a 3bet... then you shouldn't overbet.

[hitch1978]

yes

[Craggoo]

If you want to price him out of calling preflop w/ his pocket pair then you need to re-raise much bigger. Seeing his stats though, i doubt hes folding regardless of the size of your preflop raise. When you overbet the flop you committ yourself to the hand. Lesson learned: dont overbet pot with 1 pair.

[mackthefork]

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If you want to price him out of calling preflop w/ his pocket pair then you need to re-raise much bigger. Seeing his stats though, i doubt hes folding regardless of the size of your preflop raise. When you overbet the flop you committ yourself to the hand. Lesson learned: dont overbet pot with 1 pair.

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You what? I did price him out and he called anyways.

Mack

[doppelganger]

7 out of 8 times he makes his bad PF call and misses, and you make $8.37 with the cbet, or more if he's dumb enough to call without a winning hand on the flop. 1 out of 8 times he hits a set and stacks you.

7*8.37-1*49.75 = +EV of $8.84. Your play is standard and fine.

[mackthefork]

Lets say effective stack is A, current pot is B, and price to call my re-raise is C

If A+B=&gt;12C then call is breakeven if not fold.

In this case my stack was 42 + pot 10.5 = $52.50

Reraise is 5.50 x 12 = $66 so fold is right.

Mack

[wslee00]

why has this not been moved to bbv yet?

[mackthefork]

Okay I'll never post another i lose.

Thanks

[Craggoo]

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Okay I'll never post another i lose.

Thanks

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ty. AA hands (or any overpair hands) are boring and uninteresting

[frostbrn]

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Okay I'll never post another i lose.

Thanks

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Hey, did you used to be "macktheknife"? I remember seeing a guy with that name at NL50 not too long ago

[terp]

the way i play i don't ever fold aces in a SINGLE-raised pot and it's only a question of can i get my whole stack in.

this is like....LOLcall