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09-13-2007, 11:09 PM
villain is metches, I have him at 25/16/3.5 over decent sample. I am 17/13/3. I checked the flop with the intention to checkraise. He took some time calling my 3bet preflop, my read was that he called with a medium pocket pair. We have some history, and I`m pretty sure he would have 4bet preflop with KK-AA or AKs.

I kind of took an unusual line in this hand, since I generaly CBet this flop, and I think that villain knows that I usualy Cbet this board. I think he is capable of floating my Cbet here, and would view my checking as me being tricky.

Also, I think I should have bet 12$ on the turn.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($22.25)
UTG ($52.50)
MP ($75.65)
Button ($7.10)
Hero ($68.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $6.

Flop: ($16.50) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($16.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: $16.50
C4LL4W4Y
09-13-2007, 11:17 PM
looks good.
ReNoRyan
09-13-2007, 11:46 PM
Looks pretty good, I like 12 on the turn also.
sightless
09-14-2007, 02:08 AM
very nice
I need to do this more often
whyzze
09-14-2007, 02:30 AM
I dont really like this line. His weaker pocket pairs are more inclined to call this turn than the flop imo. I only like a flop check here if you are planning to crai.

Rep the monster!!
corsakh
09-14-2007, 03:01 AM
No way on earth he would check this flop a med pair. If he calls with TT preflop he is comfortable felting it on this board and noway he is giving you a free card. You either have the best hand or he is tarping you with 99. I dont like the turn at all unless you think he can have 87 here.
vixticator
09-14-2007, 03:08 AM
I do this in raise pots probably more than I should, 3bet not so much.
bozzer
09-14-2007, 11:32 PM
good line to mix it up.
Jamougha
09-15-2007, 12:53 AM
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He took some time calling my 3bet preflop, my read was that he called with a medium pocket pair

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bad bad read, people instacall with mid pocket pairs.
mookboi
09-15-2007, 04:18 AM
Very gangsta, I approve.
Lego05
09-15-2007, 07:01 AM
Very surprised so many people (especially sightless) liked this.

Bet the flop. Villian's just about def. calln with a mid-pair anyway.

You can check the turn if you wnt....which is where villian expects you to check with a missed hand btw.
icheckcallu
09-15-2007, 07:06 AM
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villain is metches, I have him at 25/16/3.5 over decent sample. I am 17/13/3. I checked the flop with the intention to checkraise. He took some time calling my 3bet preflop, my read was that he called with a medium pocket pair. We have some history, and I`m pretty sure he would have 4bet preflop with KK-AA or AKs.

I kind of took an unusual line in this hand, since I generaly CBet this flop, and I think that villain knows that I usualy Cbet this board. I think he is capable of floating my Cbet here, and would view my checking as me being tricky.

Also, I think I should have bet 12$ on the turn.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($22.25)
UTG ($52.50)
MP ($75.65)
Button ($7.10)
Hero ($68.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $6.

Flop: ($16.50) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($16.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: $16.50

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standard..... 4bet shove turn too if he budge!
jjb108
09-15-2007, 11:11 AM
What the [censored] is a Lagtag? A loose but tight agressive opponent? wtf?