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YesMehFriend
09-13-2007, 01:45 PM
The villain in this hand was quite active pf (raising a bit from lp / stealing) he was like 31/24 after 24 hands at the time we played this hand.

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CO ($24.65)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($32.10)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.75)</font>
BB ($25.45)
UTG ($20.75)
MP ($29.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP folds, Button calls $2.75.

Flop: ($8.50) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, Button calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ...

Is the flop bet-size ok? The texture looks quite good for me and what's my plan for the turn?
What pf-calling range can we assign to such a player (seemed quite solid up to that point)? Is a hand like KQ in his range? And should I be 3betting this? - haven't seen a showdown from him up to now ...

faarcyde
09-13-2007, 01:51 PM
Flop bet is standard. I continue betting on the turn here a lot of the time given the board texture. Watch him call down with KQ, KJ, KT, J9, etc. Only thing I am worried about at this point is AK, although he would have probably raised that on the flop. If he raises the turn that will put you to a tough decision, but no point letting up when you hit.

YesMehFriend
09-13-2007, 01:55 PM
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Flop bet is standard. I continue betting on the turn here a lot of the time given the board texture. Watch him call down with KQ, KJ, KT, J9, etc. Only thing I am worried about at this point is AK, although he would have probably raised that on the flop. If he raises the turn that will put you to a tough decision, but no point letting up when you hit.

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I've 15$ left in a 20$ pot - if I bet (shove) the turn there is no decision to make if he raises ...

Edit: so you think he calls the turn with a hand like KJ?

Idaho_Angler
09-13-2007, 01:57 PM
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Flop bet is standard. I continue betting on the turn here a lot of the time given the board texture. Watch him call down with KQ, KJ, KT, J9, etc. Only thing I am worried about at this point is AK, although he would have probably raised that on the flop. If he raises the turn that will put you to a tough decision, but no point letting up when you hit.

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any bet by HERO on turn puts himself all-in -- no?

I check the turn 50% of the time to induce a bluff and bet 50% of the time for value. I think an under pair is in his range 10-10 JJ QQ

Kasane
09-13-2007, 01:58 PM
Ugh, but whatever. Hero will be committed on turn no matter what he bets. He's only got 3/4 of a psb left.

The A may have been your worst card, because I think it commits you -- Villain is not calling with anything you beat, and he has almost no outs if you're ahead. I think we c/c, get him to bluff the A if he has JJ/QQ/KQ, some other crap, or likes to float because if he had a legit hand on the flop he's still ahead (AK, sets).

If the turn whiffs, bet small on river and JJ/QQ will call.

Don't expect to win this all that often.

faarcyde
09-13-2007, 01:59 PM
Okay my bad.

Well, my opinion then is if you are c-betting with air on the flop, and you hit on the turn, what are you going to do? Fold? Given the amount in the pot I don't think he is going to be checking through twice given that he appears competent and aware of position. So I guess I am saying shove and hope he calls with KQ, JJ, QQ?

CyberianBull
09-13-2007, 02:01 PM
I 3-bet this quite often -- especially if his steal blind % is &gt;25.
His flop call can be 1010-QQ, KQ. Although QQ-AA are 4-betting you here IMO. AK is definately in his range but I think he would raise your c-bet. Firing this turn makes you committed, and you are not beating much if you are raised. So I like checking this turn and calling a smallish bet on the river.

Keitan
09-13-2007, 02:09 PM
I'd consider betting about 1/2 pot to induce a desperation bluff. AK defintely makes up big part of villain's range but I think you're still ahead most of the time and you can't get away here.. so you might as well try to extract as much as you can from weaker hands.

YesMehFriend
09-13-2007, 02:23 PM
I didn't like to bet the turn since I expected most hands I beat to fold to my turn shove (and a 10$ bet is a shove - he realizes that for sure).
So I checked and villain put in a 5$ bet. That was really surprising since he seemed solid up to now - never made anything than 1/2 pot bet.
So what do we do? Call - shove - fold?

simple1248
09-13-2007, 02:42 PM
I think the squirly bastard is attempting a value bet on this turn. He wants you to go all in. You probably have to shove.

TheDoubleA
09-13-2007, 04:31 PM
I think the cbet is standard, and dont mind it at all. Him not raising the flop makes it look like he does not have AK. I would think that he 4 bets AA and KK, and maybe QQ preflop. I can see his range being KQ, KJ, maybe K10, JJ, 1010, QQ maybe. I guess there is the posibility that he has Axs here, and called because of position, and floated you on the flop. I really think that pushing the turn is the best option, because I think most of his range you beat.