NL5 6-max: flop trips, turn into full house

[cyanescens]

Hello guys, I've been lurking for some days on this forum and now I've decided to ask you for some ideas on this hand.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $7.72
BB: $2.88
UTG: $5.86
Hero (BTN): $4.96

Reads: <font color="blue">No reads on both players as I've played &lt;10 hands with them.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.02, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.08</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.06, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.25) 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 4http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.16</font>, BB calls $0.16, UTG calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.73) 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 4http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.20</font>, BB calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20

River: ($1.33) 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 4http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $1.24</font>

I had to bet more on the flop (pot).

On the turn I had a monster but A4 was well possible (but wouldn't A4 raise me on the flop with straight and flushes draws? I'm excluding A5) I'm putting one player on some ace (hopefully not A4 or A5) and the other on a straight/flush draw. How much should I bet here?

On the river I'm totally confused and the fact that there's still another player after me scares me even more.
What should I put my opponents on in this situation where I have absolutely no read on them? What range at least?
Would the UTG bet that river with AK-AQ because, if we were drawing, we missed our draws?

What should I do in this spot?

[AAKKQQ007]

Uhm, u know, u beat A4, you should not think about folding cause only 44,99 and AA beat u. Only thing u should do here is try to get max value. With the player behind I think calling is an option, but I just shove and hope somebody calls me with AK/AQ, Maybe even 54. I pay off AA and 99 obv, but 99 should never be in his range on the river. And it looks like AA is not in his range either.

[mr.spam]

Shovements. Seriously, pot is over 50% of your stack now, and you'll get called by a random ace or a four enough to make it profitable.

And wth @ "I'm putting one player on some ace (hopefully not A4 or A5)"
You beat both A4 and A5 big time, HOPE they have it... You're only losing to AA, 99 or 44

[lsaw2]

Bet slightly more on the flop, bet more on the turn ~ .55/.65. As played shove river you're only losing to 99, AA or 44.

If you'd have bet slightly bigger on the earlier streets then you would only be shoving $3 more. Hopefully someone with a 4 will look you up. If you're beat you're beat but i'm not folding this at this level.

[doppelganger]

First of all, welcome to the forum. It's refreshing to see a post by a n00b who:

1. Used a hand converter the first time
2. Provided a comment on reads even absent one
3. Gave us a run through the thought process for the hand


I think you missed some value here. Preflop looks good, but on a super drawy A-high board against 2 villains, your cbet is almost always getting called. So I like to make it much closer to pot sized to start building a pot and charging the draws.

Your turn bet is WAY too small. With a very strong hand you want to design your bet sizes so that they're small enough to be called, but large enough to get everybody's money in by the river. I think maybe you were intending this bet to be viewed as weak so someone would raise? Don't think like that at the micros, certainly not the $2NL game. NOBODY is a thinking player at this limit and they will not sense weakness, they will just be happy they get to see another card for cheap. Make your turn bet about 5/8 of the pot and hope to get raised by A4.

Keep pushing for value on the river. Don't be afraid because there are 2 players sticking around while you are betting, it happens all the time at this limit and means nothing. I assume you're posting the hand because you lost, but that doesn't matter. The important thing is to play the hand correctly so as to maximize EV over the LONG RUN. Individual hands are irrelevant in poker, what counts is the long term mathematical expectation of every single decision you make.

[orig!naL]

make it $0.20 on the flop. Bet around 75% again on the turn. This is an easy river shove.