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zooot
09-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Fish...I mean Villain is 66/9/2/32

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $30.90
BB: $15.00
UTG: $16.05
Hero (MP): $27.45
CO: $18.55
BTN: $23.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($3.25) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, CO folds, SB calls $2.00

Turn: ($8.25) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.25</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $27.40</font>

Hero ?

If I have to put him on a range I guess the hands he calls Preflop, donk/calls Flop, and CRAI Turn would be:
A7ss
97s
87ss
76ss
22
33
77
99
Air

(Don't think he plays a set this way, but anything's possible)

orig!naL
09-12-2007, 03:19 PM
first of all is his AF 2?

Have you seen this villain stack off with something like A7 or any A-rag on a 7 high board?

As played I would probably fold here. He probably hit 2 pair

zooot
09-12-2007, 03:25 PM
yes, AF=2. small sample tho (37 hands). have not seen him show anything down. 2 pr+ would seem obvious except on this board. only 2 pr i can see him playing each street this way is 97s (non-spades). right? wrong?

monkeymaps
09-12-2007, 03:42 PM
its kind of hard to rule out too many hands given he is playing 66% of his hands.

this is prob a fold he might have a worse overpair or FD but not often enough to warrent a call without a better read IMO

zooot
09-12-2007, 04:16 PM
yeah, hard to rule out much.

considering 66% tho, does he really have 2 pr w/ anything other than 97?

92, 72, 93, 73, and 32 seem unlikely even for a 66% player.

set seems weird to donk with. i keep coming back to A7ss, 97 (non-spades), maybe KK/JJ-99, random FD, and complete AIR (which could include an Ace). Obv of these mentioned i beat only a few. But I guess I'm saying AIR + FD seem to be a big part of his range.

i dunno. thx for advice.

thoman8r
09-12-2007, 04:50 PM
Wow, I can't believe people want to fold here? Against a 66/9 I am felting this and feeling great about it. I think we are ahead here against this guy a lot.

nutstoyou
09-12-2007, 05:06 PM
This is the kind of board you hate to play against a 66%. I think he could have easily played 3 2 suited. He probably does it all the time.

MrWooster
09-12-2007, 05:09 PM
This is the Baluga theory - TP is no good when C/R'ed on the turn - you have to fold

monkover
09-12-2007, 05:09 PM
maybe itīs just me but i call here all day long... villain is a donk!

Spinners
09-12-2007, 05:10 PM
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This is the Baluga theory - TP is no good when C/R'ed on the turn - you have to fold

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Waingro
09-12-2007, 05:12 PM
Such an easy call, this guy pounds bottom pair like a 2p2er pounds a set. I wouldnīt even contemplate not calling.

Spinners
09-12-2007, 05:13 PM
[ QUOTE ]
maybe itīs just me but i call here all day long... villain is a donk!

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Well looking at his stats yes I do agree with you.

MrWooster
09-12-2007, 05:13 PM
A c/r is a very strong line - even from this villain - I still advocate folding - I see 2pair and a set here a lot. Baluga has never let me down.

Ratamahatta
09-12-2007, 05:15 PM
[ QUOTE ]
This is the Baluga theory - TP is no good when C/R'ed on the turn - you have to fold

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Baluga thorem applies mostly to TPTK-kind of hands not overpairs and definitely not to 66/9/2/32 idiots.

ICMoney
09-12-2007, 05:41 PM
I would expect to be good here 50% of the time.

Pot is laying something like 1.58:1 after rake.

Spinners
09-12-2007, 05:50 PM
Re-looking at his stats its a snap call.