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pofigistka
09-11-2007, 03:43 PM
Villain is 19/11 over 1.3k hands. Should I be considering folding flop? My intention was to check the turn behind for pot control or give up to a donk. Realistically I doubt he c/r a draw here that often and probs elects to c/c a weaker made hand..Any thoughts?

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $50.45
BB: $63.80
UTG: $36.85
Hero (CO): $59.90
BTN: $91.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.75</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $5.25

Turn: ($19.75) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $50.15</font>, BB calls $34.15

River: ($120.05) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $120.05 ($2 Rake)

Lego05
09-11-2007, 03:47 PM
Without history or a good read I'd fold the flop.


BTW the Ah on the turn didn't change the strength of your hand relative to his. It may as well have been the 2h.

pofigistka
09-11-2007, 03:52 PM
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Without history or a good read I'd fold the flop.


BTW the Ah on the turn didn't change the strength of your hand relative to his. It may as well have been the 2h.

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I don't see him folding a worse ace though. However, he probably would not c/r a worse ace in retrospect.

Hail Eris
09-11-2007, 03:53 PM
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BTW the Ah on the turn didn't change the strength of your hand relative to his. It may as well have been the 2h.

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Actually, it might as well change it for the worse, since he's never double barrelling a flush draw into our obvious trip Aces.

thoman8r
09-11-2007, 03:57 PM
This is 55 or a bluff. If you think he's capable of the latter, a call is fine but when he fires the turn you gotta let it go.

orig!naL
09-11-2007, 04:19 PM
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This is 55 or a bluff. If you think he's capable of the latter, a call is fine but when he fires the turn you gotta let it go.

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Unless you are 100% villain 3-bets AQ OOP, this could easily be AQ. Either way we are big time beat.

PJo336
09-11-2007, 04:34 PM
Why doesnt the range include Qdxd?

Micro Donk
09-11-2007, 04:36 PM
given his stats, all i can see is KdQd, maybe QdJd. the question is would they c/r...

pofigistka
09-11-2007, 04:39 PM
It was only the 2nd time he had c/r flop in given sample.

pofigistka
09-11-2007, 04:40 PM
However, I had just folded to his c/r moments before on another table.

argy1182
09-11-2007, 04:50 PM
Consider increasing your PF raise size to approximately 6BB instead of 3.75BB. That would provide a SPR of around 6, which would make this hand a lot easier to play and allow you to avoid difficult decisions later in the hand.

pr0crast
09-11-2007, 04:50 PM
His flop raise range is probably bigdraw/2pair/55. So you are either flipping or crushed. Fold flop.

pofigistka
09-11-2007, 04:55 PM
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Consider increasing your PF raise size to approximately 6BB instead of 3.75BB. That would provide a SPR of around 6, which would make this hand a lot easier to play and allow you to avoid difficult decisions later in the hand.

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All very well in PNLHE and ok in live game, unfeasible in 6 max though as I open plenty from Button and can't be making it 6x, also opponents would quickly catch on if I was varying pfr that much according to hand strength.

pr0crast
09-11-2007, 05:02 PM
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Consider increasing your PF raise size to approximately 6BB instead of 3.75BB. That would provide a SPR of around 6, which would make this hand a lot easier to play and allow you to avoid difficult decisions later in the hand.

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This strikes me as bad, value-sapping advice.

Lego05
09-11-2007, 05:04 PM
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Consider increasing your PF raise size to approximately 6BB instead of 3.75BB. That would provide a SPR of around 6, which would make this hand a lot easier to play and allow you to avoid difficult decisions later in the hand.

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This strikes me as bad, value-sapping advice.

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It strikes me as bad advice also.

thoman8r
09-11-2007, 05:10 PM
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Why doesnt the range include Qdxd?

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I can't see a competent TAGish player not 3-betting QQ or even AQ in this spot.

pofigistka
09-11-2007, 06:25 PM
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This is 55 or a bluff. If you think he's capable of the latter, a call is fine but when he fires the turn you gotta let it go.

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Unless you are 100% villain 3-bets AQ OOP, this could easily be AQ. Either way we are big time beat.

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Indeed villain showed AQ.