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haarbalz
09-11-2007, 07:02 AM
vill is 21/11/1.2

i have a note on him: "slowplay the nuts", so i dont think he would play a flush like this


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MP ($10)
Hero ($28.30)
Button ($24.10)
SB ($36.20)
BB ($16.80)
UTG ($43.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.85) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2.5</font>, Hero calls $2.50.

Turn: ($7.85) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $7</font>, Hero ?

Sharagoz
09-11-2007, 07:33 AM
Consider re-raising pre-flop.
As played I'd probably fold the flop. Either fold or raise. I really hate calling to draw when I might be drawing dead.

On the turn I'd most likely fold even though I hit. He is playing this very strongly. I dont think AQ is the best hand. If you had the best hand he'd probably check the turn.

BoerfSt
09-11-2007, 07:35 AM
Just calling the flop made this hand alot harder to play.Even if you hit your diamond you dont know where you are.Fold or raise the flop and if he calls the raise just slow down on turn.

Nogatsira
09-11-2007, 07:36 AM
I don't think you really beat anything here. He opened UTG and keep betting hard. Seems more like an overpair here and you don't really want to pay $7 to see a brick river and get another potsized bet.

fees
09-11-2007, 08:08 AM
I would call and fold most rivers (not the Q or A ofc)

Nogatsira
09-11-2007, 08:09 AM
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I would call and fold most rivers (not the Q or A ofc)

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Isnt that an expensive turn for 5 outs who might not even be good?

DaN_05
09-11-2007, 08:10 AM
Villian doesn't seem the sort who would double barrel here without the goods. I'd fold.

ama0330
09-11-2007, 08:50 AM
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I would call and fold most rivers (not the Q or A ofc)

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Isnt that an expensive turn for 5 outs who might not even be good?

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The point is that we may well be ahead. I think this is proably the best line, I think folding this turn is a little timid, and raising just gets us called by better

Nogatsira
09-11-2007, 09:12 AM
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I would call and fold most rivers (not the Q or A ofc)

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Isnt that an expensive turn for 5 outs who might not even be good?

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The point is that we may well be ahead. I think this is proably the best line, I think folding this turn is a little timid, and raising just gets us called by better

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But the 'fold most rivers' part got me confused then. If you call here because you might be well ahead, what kind of river would you call and what kind would you fold to if he pots it?

traz
09-11-2007, 10:12 AM
I call here and call any non-diamond river. I actually don't mind raising the turn either, because the naked Ad is a huge part of his range imo

yntm3
09-11-2007, 10:19 AM
This seems botched pretty badly. I think we are shown AA or KK with a diamond here. A set trying to protect against the 3-flush is also a candidate.

I can't see anything that we beat. He could possibly have AhT but I think a passive player shuts down on the turn and might not even be a part of his opening range.

I don't think you belong in this pot and calling turn like others said is starting to make the pot big.

Miko
09-11-2007, 10:26 AM
I'd re-raise pre-flop almost always and would fold this flop most of the time (if not always)

On the turn you're passing the commitment threshold and I don't think you're committed and I don't think you should commit if a diamond falls on the river too. I think it's an relatively easy fold on the turn, as played.

DeathbySuckout
09-11-2007, 10:27 AM
I'm 3 betting this PF in position. 90% of the time villain will check the flop to you, and you can decide how you want to proceed.
As played, I fold this flop. You really have no idea where you stand, with no shot at anything close to the nuts at this point.