50 NL, AJ, I'm playing with multi-barreling with poor results ;-]

[yapee]

Villain is 26/16/2.

Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $17.35
BB: $48.70
UTG: $55.35
Hero (CO): $58.25
BTN: $134.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.00</font>, UTG calls $6.50

Turn: ($22.25) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, UTG calls $15.00

River: ($52.25) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $32.50</font>, UTG calls all-in for $29.60
Uncalled bet of $2.90 returned to Hero

On the turn i thought that his most likely holding is a pair of some kind or overs, and he won't be able to stand the heat. Is turn spew already or only the river bet?

[traz]

yuck. Fold preflop, and definitely don't bet the turn. Tx is never folding, and any heart draws just got there.

[Khumalo]

Consider 3 betting your hand pf. A read would help. You're five-handed, has he opened up his early position raising range at all (that sort of thing)?

As played, I give up after he calls the flop check-raise.

[yapee]

It's not a check-raise, Hero has position.

So should I by default either 3bet or give up AJo in position pf?

[corsakh]

I play big and medium pockets against aggro monkeys like villain did all the time. Some people just cant stop bluffing on paired boards.

[clowntable]

Against your typical UTG player with typical stacks I fold AJo as the typical range is any PP, AK-AQ, KQs, AJs + some connectors or not (usually down to like 65s)
Hand 0: 42.630% 41.21% 01.42% 1083945996 37271658.00 { AJo }
Hand 1: 57.370% 55.95% 01.42% 1471609632 37271658.00 { 22+, AJs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, AQo+ }

You could argue that the equity is good enough concidering the fact that we have position but personally I'm too bad a player to play AJo good enough to make it worthwhile.
It's the win small/lose big kind of hand vs that range.
If you have a read that that particular player plays Ax from UTG etc. things change obviousely
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As played, without any specific reads I give up after he calls the raise

[Spanky1974]

I would give up calling UTG raises w/ easily dominated offsuit hands if this is the result.

[gregorio]

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So should I by default either 3bet or give up AJo in position pf?

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By default, you should give up AJo to an UTG raise. If you have a read that makes you want to play this, 3-bet.

[futuredoc85]

preflop is fine. AJ does pretty well vs an UTG raising range 5 handed, but not so well against a range for calling a 3-bet at this level. Give up after the turn though he's clearly not folding. Honestly i like calling the flop better since you're ahead quite a bit.

[clowntable]

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preflop is fine. AJ does pretty well vs an UTG raising range 5 handed, but not so well against a range for calling a 3-bet at this level. Give up after the turn though he's clearly not folding. Honestly i like calling the flop better since you're ahead quite a bit.

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What range for UTG do you base this statement on?
And what is "pretty well" in terms of equity?
How much equity do you think having position is worth in this spot?

[futuredoc85]

16 PFR is raising hands like JTs/QJs/KJs,KJo/ATs/A9s/medium pairs. All of these will put in a decent amount of money when we hit, and we can float a decent AMT vs this guy (which is why position is so nice). Also preflop equity doesnt matter all that much for calling a single raise (for ex. villain shows you AA and raises 4X 100BBs deep you are obv calling 22-KK even though your equity sucks). Quantifying the exact value of position is impossible b/c it depends so much on the players involved in the hand, but i think its worth enough to make up for a 57.5/42.5 preflop equity hit.

[C4LL4W4Y]

it's worth plenty if utg's the type to raise all pp's preflop - many flops are going to scare those holdings, and you'll often be able to take the pot down with position.

otherwise, just fold. aj has rio written all over it against most standard utg ranges.

as played i'd probably muck flop.

[C4LL4W4Y]

16 pfr (UTG) is raising all those hands? Really?

[traz]

futuredoc, calling AJo against a UTG raise is a total RIO situation and really bad at this level imo. Not just marginally bad, but really bad.

[yapee]

Thanks for responses

[Ikaika]

Shoving river with 4 hearts on the board when you like never have a big heart yourself and he obviously has something that isn't scared of the flush/flush draw seems pretty spewy.

[Waingro]

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16 PFR is raising hands like JTs/QJs/KJs,KJo/ATs/A9s/medium pairs. All of these will put in a decent amount of money when we hit, and we can float a decent AMT vs this guy (which is why position is so nice). Also preflop equity doesnt matter all that much for calling a single raise (for ex. villain shows you AA and raises 4X 100BBs deep you are obv calling 22-KK even though your equity sucks). Quantifying the exact value of position is impossible b/c it depends so much on the players involved in the hand, but i think its worth enough to make up for a 57.5/42.5 preflop equity hit.

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This post convinced me. Only problem is that I haven´t done this much at all, so I will probably spew all over the place at first. But maybe I am not too old to learn.

Op,
fold the flop. This is such a standard bluffing board. This is why raising this flop if you actually have a T is such a good move.