50NL: AJs OOP Awkward Stacks

[Daniel LeClaire]

No reads. The previous hand I raised and only the BB called. He bet pot into me on the flop and I folded. The players might think I'm steamin' a little, if they are paying attention.

CO stack size is a bit awkward. What do you like doing on the turn, betting or checking? If we make any sizeable bet we are pretty much committed to calling a shove.

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SB: $14.70
BB: $30.80
Hero (UTG): $48.45
MP: $49.25
CO: $31.55
BTN: $39.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($6) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, CO calls $4.50, BTN folds

Turn: ($15) 2http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ?</font>

[Monster207]

i check the turn for pot control. if you raise the turn I think you're pretty much turning your hand into a bluff.

[Keitan]

i think c/c turn and river. if turn is checked thru vbet river

[geekylucas]

If we check-call the turn aren't we essentially forcing ourselves into a situation where we have to decide if we want to call a shove on the river?

How do we know whether or not villain is betting the turn because she thinks we missed the flop and have given up after c-betting?

[Quester]

Check/Calling the turn probably commits us. I think that's why the hand is interesting. I think this is a bad option. That leaves three: c/rai, c/f, lead.

Of the three choices, I think I prefer a blocking bet of maybe 7. That still leaves a tough choice on the river though if we check and he shoves. I think I flip my trusty 3-sided coin.

[Daniel LeClaire]

If I bet I have to call a shove, so since the board was pretty dry I decided to check and see what happened.

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SB: $14.70
BB: $30.80
Hero (UTG): $48.45
MP: $49.25
CO: $31.55
BTN: $39.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($6) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, CO calls $4.50, BTN folds

Turn: ($15) 2http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $8.00</font>, Hero ?

[Peter Harris]

and gave yourself a harder decision. Looks like NLTAP was a waste of money...

now either CRAI or fold.

[futuredoc85]

shove now, bet/call the turn

[CobraGoat]

i think turn c/r AI is best.

[huhwhatyousay?]

Shove it in now. This is a decent board for AJ vs. both villain's ranges Imo. Although I don't see anything that bets the turn for value that we beat after we led the flop 3-way, leading the turn folds out the lower part of his range. So, CRAI = max value vs. {random floats, weaker aces, combo draws, whatever} etc.

[Daniel LeClaire]

I thought about CRAI on the turn but figured I'm either WA/WB. I decided to call and c/c any river, giving villain the chance to bluff at it again. If he's bluffing the turn he won't call my c/r. On the other hand, I may miss some value on the river if he checks behind.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $14.70
BB: $30.80
Hero (UTG): $48.45
MP: $49.25
CO: $31.55
BTN: $39.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($6) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, CO calls $4.50, BTN folds

Turn: ($15) 2http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $8.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

River: ($31) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $17.30</font>, Hero calls $17.30

Pot Size: $65.60

CO had 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif ([7c Jc] Ace Jack high) and LOST
Hero had Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif ([Jd Ad] a pair of Aces) and WON


So I won the hand but I'm not sure how great I played it. Villain has to be bluffing here a lot for this to be good. Obviously, I thought he would be more likely to bluff given the previous hand. If you raise two hands in a row you are a maniac lol. It's pretty interesting that he called the flop with no pair/draw.

And you can see the risk of c/c the turn. If a club hit the river I'm wasn't going to be too happy. Still, it was a pretty interesting hand taking into account stack sizes, previous hand, playing OOP, etc.

[orig!naL]

once he bets out on the turn, it gets really read dependant. I'll pitch this against a really solid player.

I'm definitely folding the river.