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bober2
09-10-2007, 09:23 AM
Is this betting reasonable?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($40.80)
CO ($9.65)
Button ($9.05)
SB ($9.90)
Hero ($10.15)
UTG ($5.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.30, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.8</font>, Hero calls $0.70, UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.30) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $3.4</font>, Button folds, SB calls $1.90, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9.35</font>, MP calls $5.95, SB folds.

Turn: ($25.40) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($25.40) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $25.40

bigjoker66
09-10-2007, 10:36 AM
You should have folded this pre-flop.

Three bet from sb is usually pretty strong and you are oop against 3 other players still to act.

pytteh
09-10-2007, 10:53 AM
It isn't reasonable to call a re-raise preflop with A7s.
You are oop and can expect that SB has a better hand than yours.

Fold preflop.

Eric Yang
09-10-2007, 10:58 AM
this is an instafold preflop

Also fold flop too because you don't have enough folding equity and certainly not enough pot odds. I'm still a beginner and i can see that this hand is pretty bad.

bober2
09-10-2007, 11:08 AM
I think you're mistaken about the pot odds, although it's close. When i push all-in there is $11.60 in the pot. If one villain calls my shove, the pot (not counting my last bet of $9.35) is $17.55. So it seems like i created a situation where i'm effectively getting at least 17.55/9.35 = 1.9:1 pot odds. The odds of hitting the flush are 1.8:1 against, so it seems
quite reasonable to me to shove as i did.

foal
09-10-2007, 11:10 AM
Big mistake semi-bluffing the flop. You should only semi-bluff when you think you have fold equity. SB bet into two people and then stuck around after a call and a raise. MP raised after a bet from someone who 3-bet preflop and a call. What makes you think BOTH of them are going to fold to your raise?

bober2
09-10-2007, 11:53 AM
They both don't have to fold, because the pot odds are right (though barely) to make the shove acceptable.

98Suited
09-10-2007, 12:35 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I think you're mistaken about the pot odds, although it's close. When i push all-in there is $11.60 in the pot. If one villain calls my shove, the pot (not counting my last bet of $9.35) is $17.55. So it seems like i created a situation where i'm effectively getting at least 17.55/9.35 = 1.9:1 pot odds. The odds of hitting the flush are 1.8:1 against, so it seems
quite reasonable to me to shove as i did.

[/ QUOTE ]

If someone has a set (which does seem quite reasonable given the action) you're closer to a 3:1 dog.

And I agree with everyone saying pf is major spew.

terencetsao
09-10-2007, 03:40 PM
fold preflop,
and dont shove all in on the flop, just call the raise hope to hit your flush on the turn.

AZplaya
09-10-2007, 03:42 PM
this hand looks like me on tilt. Fold pre, just call flop.

Lego05
09-10-2007, 03:47 PM
Pre-flop is gross.