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Snafu'd
09-09-2007, 03:48 PM
Villain had only been at the table for 40 hands, but his stats were 18/9/infinity, so it's safe to say he's playing fit or fold poker. I hadn't seen a minraise from him yet, but I usually put people on a monster or a draw in this spot. I felt like after his turn play, he better defined his hand for me. Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $31.05
Hero (BB): $28.20
UTG: $48.65
CO: $21.00
BTN: $21.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/9h.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Jc.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.85) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/9d.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Js.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Td.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.85</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.70</font>, Hero calls $0.85

Turn: ($4.25) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/5c.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $19.25</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $16.25 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $10.25 ($0.50 Rake)

whyzze
09-09-2007, 03:53 PM
its a fold imo.

however I would rather 3bet the flop or check the turn. What were you expecting from this guy when you led turn?

Snafu'd
09-09-2007, 03:59 PM
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its a fold imo.

however I would rather 3bet the flop or check the turn. What were you expecting from this guy when you led turn?

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I donked the turn to protect my hand from draws. When he raises all in on the turn, I felt he better defined his hand as a strong made one or at the very least a big combo draw. I could be wrong though, that's why I posted. If you advocate checking the turn, are you calling a 2/3 to full psb? If you 3 bet flop, are you going to the felt if he four bets?

whyzze
09-09-2007, 04:30 PM
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its a fold imo.

however I would rather 3bet the flop or check the turn. What were you expecting from this guy when you led turn?

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I donked the turn to protect my hand from draws. When he raises all in on the turn, I felt he better defined his hand as a strong made one or at the very least a big combo draw. I could be wrong though, that's why I posted. If you advocate checking the turn, are you calling a 2/3 to full psb? If you 3 bet flop, are you going to the felt if he four bets?

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No...I dont want to play for stacks. I fold if he 4bets the flop.

Now on the turn...this guy has decided to be agressive with whatever he has which could be the nuts...or it could be a draw...not even a combo draw. If he raised you on the flop he is almost certainly going to raise you on the turn...here you allow him to use position to get you off your hand. In this hand...you shouldn't fight agression with agression.