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Rounder101
09-09-2007, 01:58 AM
I have him at 30/18/3.5, I have 3b PF at this table ALOT, and he has always layed his hands down to my resistance.
So far, Ive seen him play great, PF hes really loose, but his postflop play is solid.
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UTG ($56.10)
MP ($20.35)
CO ($9)
Hero ($71.30)
SB ($50)
BB ($17.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $10</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($20.75) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($20.75) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($20.75) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $13</font>, Hero calls $13.

Final Pot: $46.75

Comments on all streets apreciated, at the time I had no clue wtf was going on
Sean Fraley
09-09-2007, 02:12 AM
If you are calling a 4-bet here it is to commit if you flop an overpair or a set. If you think the majority of villains 4-betting range beats or ties with QQ, let it go.

The rest of the streets are fine. I probably could have found a fold on the flop and turn if villain bet either of them. The river on the other hand we pretty much have to call since checking behind on two streets is about as big an invitation to bluff us as we can offer.
homeslice
09-09-2007, 03:41 AM
Given his position, I fold after he's comes over the top PF.
Rounder101
09-09-2007, 04:07 AM
u mean fold it PF??
mookboi
09-09-2007, 06:04 AM
If he's really decent, that preflop raise screams "Ha, I gotcha, lemme drag you in by betting small." I fold to this PF 4bet, depending on my feel for the opponent.

As played, I'm really not sure what we can beat on river here. I mean... AK, JJ-AA all got there. You are splitting with QQ maybe? That'd be real rare. TT doesn't usually 4bet this preflop, and neither does AQs. Eh. I think I fold.
Hail Eris
09-09-2007, 06:16 AM
So basically the only hand he can possibly have here that you beat is AQ, except you have QQ, and he wouldn't bet it anyway since QQ is literally the only hand that both beats him and can ever fold.
Rounder101
09-09-2007, 02:36 PM
IMO, I cant fold PF, I am also thinking hes got AK+, maybe JJ, but folding to a minraise there?!. I have position, and even calling for set value would be good here. It makes no sense to me laying it down PF. If he raises to 15, then I could be folding but to a minraise!!
AshleyC
09-09-2007, 02:52 PM
I think the min re-raise pre-flop and the post flop play indicate Aces, with the river bet being a blocking bet. I think the river is a very easy fold.
robert jordan
09-09-2007, 03:07 PM
fold river, rest is fine.