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captain-planet
09-09-2007, 01:35 AM
been at the table for about an hour, no reads except that i haven't seen villain get out of line.

immediately after the hand i realized i probably should've raised the flop a bit more...other than that, comments?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($98.50)
SB ($100.50)
BB ($34.15)
UTG ($103.05)
Hero ($156.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($13) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]SB bets $4</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $13</font>, Button calls $13, SB calls $9.

Turn: ($52) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $40</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $52

whyzze
09-09-2007, 01:38 AM
raise flop to ~20.

if anything the 5 helped your hand. Bet turn for value please.

and

www.pokertracker.com (http://www.pokertracker.com)

and small stakes is a better place to post 100nl hands.

Lurker.
09-09-2007, 01:40 AM
don't really like raising flop at all. what hands are we looking to get value from? a9 basically?

captain-planet
09-09-2007, 01:49 AM
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raise flop to ~20.

if anything the 5 helped your hand. Bet turn for value please.

and

www.pokertracker.com (http://www.pokertracker.com)

and small stakes is a better place to post 100nl hands.

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well im certainly not worried about the 5, but his cold-call of my flop raise (too small as it was) made me think i was very likely crushed, and I can't imagine it's correct to stack off with TT here.

captain-planet
09-09-2007, 01:51 AM
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don't really like raising flop at all. what hands are we looking to get value from? a9 basically?

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i know this is an over-used cliche, but this seemed like a decent spot to "define my hand".

DiamondDog
09-09-2007, 02:34 AM
I'd rather bet the turn and fold to a raise.

LotsOfOuts69
09-09-2007, 03:28 AM
As played you have to push this turn imo. Button has a flush draw here alot (even though hes playing it poorly). No way he has a full house and if he had an overpair JJ+ he would have raised at some point(preflop/flop).

Edit: on second thought he might have JJ or QQ here but I still dont think so. Prob 77, 66 or AK diamonds

cooker3
09-09-2007, 03:39 AM
*Grunch*
I think you played it fine. I see nothing wrong with your flop raise. nh

fjbourne
09-09-2007, 04:11 AM
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don't really like raising flop at all. what hands are we looking to get value from? a9 basically?

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Shouldn't we be pricing out flush draws here?

Iwineverypot
09-09-2007, 04:13 AM
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don't really like raising flop at all. what hands are we looking to get value from? a9 basically?

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This is more of a protection raise than a value raise, a weak lead into this board is screaming a draw. That is precisely the reason the raise should've been a bit bigger.

mookboi
09-09-2007, 05:17 AM
I like the flop raise, because there's two other people in the pot, and you have an overpair. You want to charge the button for drawing if he is. If you just flat call, you are giving him ok odds to call with a straight draw or even overs. It' also going to tell you where you stand in the hand. There's no reads that you posted on the button, but his line looks really really strong if he calls here. He flat called preflop, and if he flat calls our raise on flop, I'm done with the hand here. I don't care what he got, but unless turn is a T, I'm not putting anymore money into this pot. Which is basically the reason I advocate folding on turn. Yes, you could now be beating 98, but I think homeboy shows up here with a set/bigger overpair a lot more often than he does with 98. Good fold.