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Sharagoz
09-08-2007, 12:48 PM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $32.95
BB: $56.65
UTG: $23.40
CO: $1.75
Hero (BTN): $54.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt X X (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $32.95</font>

Here's what happened:
SB sat down one hand ago. Never played with him before.
The first hand he was BB and got a walk. Second hand I raise from BTN after UTG limps, SB insta shoves. NL50 players, what range do you call with here?

whyherro
09-08-2007, 12:51 PM
on a friday night, 99+ AJ+

vixticator
09-08-2007, 12:53 PM
I'd call with like A7s+, A9+, 66+, KJs+.

Peter Harris
09-08-2007, 12:57 PM
utg folds i assume.

I call JJ+ AQs AKo.

monkeymaps
09-08-2007, 01:03 PM
this is usually an ok hand when a see villans do this id call TT+ AQs+

Antinome
09-08-2007, 01:05 PM
depends on his nick, avatar, and location. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

'FalconsFan' from Atlanta with a picture of a baby is getting called a lot looser than 'ivaluebetu' from Moscow with an avatar from 'A Clockwork Orange'.

monkeymaps
09-08-2007, 01:08 PM
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depends on his nick, avatar, and location. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

'FalconsFan' from Atlanta with a picture of a baby is getting called a lot looser than 'ivaluebetu' from Moscow with an avatar from 'A Clockwork Orange'.

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people with babies as avatars put me on tilt. are there any winning players with baby avatars?
anyone with a pic of themselves in sunglasses trying to look tough on stars this is a faster than light speed call with any ace and prob all the way down to QJ+ lol

Sharagoz
09-08-2007, 01:41 PM
"utg folds i assume"
Yeah, sorry I removed that. UTG adn BB folds, action back to me.

"depends on his nick, avatar, and location"
Hehe, the guy was from sweeden I think with default avatar. Nick = SvenAce1.

skibbel
09-08-2007, 01:50 PM
TT+,AK
"I'd call with like A7s+, A9+, 66+, KJs+"
Spew.
99+,AQs,AK might also be ok, and maybe a bit looser, but not much more.....

cjp010
09-08-2007, 01:58 PM
Its just one hand I think you can afford to let it go without QQ+ or AKs, but even there he could be taking into account hes new and making some insanely stupid move with AA or KK.

Nogatsira
09-08-2007, 02:00 PM
It all really depends on how much you can handle the variance. Against this guy it might be profitable to call with 22+, T9o+ if he's shoving any hand.
Since its only the second time in 3 hands you shouldnt probably call that loose and narrow it down to 88+, QJ+.

I guess it really depends on how much variance you can handle

Henrix1970
09-08-2007, 02:14 PM
TT+, AQs+, AKo should do fine here

The skandinavian guy might like Gus Hanson and missunderstood what "loose-agressiv" actually means. (no, there are no winningplayers with babyavatas)

skibbel
09-08-2007, 03:07 PM
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88+, QJ+.


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QJ? Are u joking? Wtf fold that trash

TheRenaissance
09-08-2007, 03:59 PM
You have no reason to assume villain is pushing any two.
I think one of the ranges below below are fairly safe against an unknown.
Basically you can pick your variance.

Note that when adjusting your range adding a pair (77) is better than adding two broadway cards (KQ), and of course the reverse is true - subtracting AJ is better than subtracting 88.

AK,AQ,AJ,88-AA 55.12%
10% 44.88%

Hand Pot equity
AK,AQ,TT-AA 59.96%
10% 40.04%

Sharagoz
09-08-2007, 05:40 PM
Here's what happened:
I had JJ and folded. I have seen some 10-20 stacks sit down and do this with any two, but cant remember any 30+ do it. Thats what made the difference. I would have called QQ+,AK.

The guy played 20 more hands and left. He didnt do anything unusuall during the rest of his hands. Its likely he got AA/KK the first hand and figured I would think he was pushing any two, and call light.

If he had pushed the very next hand too my calling range would have been A8+,KQ, 66+.

sightless
09-08-2007, 05:48 PM
ak+
qq+

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You have no reason to assume villain is pushing any two.


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is true IMO.
I mean if he like shoves 2 hands in a span of an orbit than I am calling him superlight

starkwired
09-08-2007, 06:49 PM
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Here's what happened:
I had JJ and folded. I have seen some 10-20 stacks sit down and do this with any two, but cant remember any 30+ do it. Thats what made the difference. I would have called QQ+,AK.

The guy played 20 more hands and left. He didnt do anything unusuall during the rest of his hands. Its likely he got AA/KK the first hand and figured I would think he was pushing any two, and call light.

If he had pushed the very next hand too my calling range would have been A8+,KQ, 66+.

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I probably would have called the JJ and regretted it. Your logic sounds good and makes sense.