80NL - value betting 2 pair on river??

[BevillTheDevil]

Not quite sure what 80NL is considered so Id figured id just post it here. Villian is 52/41/3 after 106...about 50 of those hands are from short handed but overall seems really LAGGY...soo value bet or not??

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.40/$0.80
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $194.75
UTG+1: $145.15
CO: $155.50
Hero: $173.65
SB: $191.05
BB: $258.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.6</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($8.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $6.4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, BB calls.

Turn: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($48.4, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($48.4, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ??

[Pussy Galore]

value bet

[MusashiStyle]

i would bet 25 and hope he calls with any 1 pr hand. u have to fold to a raise i think, checking is not that bad but ithink betting is better. i would tend to not full pot it because i doubt 1 pr will call that.

[kaz2107]

this is ultra close. i think it comes down to if he is callin a river bet with hands like QJ. if he finds a fold with that then check behind. but because the turn checked thru and this guy sucks balls i think u can squeeze and ultra thin bet fold on the river. but it is again ultra thin

[Rounder101]

Bet it. Dont see him with something better than yours here, after checking turn and river...

[C4LL4W4Y]

not a big fan of the pf iso vs. this guy. i know you have position but i generally like to make sure my hand is beating that monkey's range in those spots, unless he's ultra tight post. but generally these guys are showdown whores, from what i've seen anyway.

as played bet/fold around 25-30.

[Voy Por Ustedes]

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[TheRenaissance]

Easy valuebet.
Also I like the way you played every street.
Villain could easily call river with something like Ax/images/graemlins/club.gif/images/graemlins/club.gif.

[sightless]

if he woulda had you beat he woulda bet the river


bet

[Rafpig]

I think this is a clear value bet. Many worse hands will call, especially from this guy who has such horrible stats.

[The Brikk]

i would of bet the pot to make him think that i want to force him out. if he's scared of the ace he will probably fold to any bet anyway but if he dont beleive you and call i think you can make more profit with a big bet like the pot and maybe a bit more.

[z28dreams]

I bet around $20 here and hope he'll call with QJ.

If we bet and villain shoves, does everyone fold? I don't think villain would check w/ AQ on the turn, but then again it's possible he missed a CRAI.

[Peter Harris]

i overlimp PF as 4way with the blinds doesn't hurt your hand or make you play a bloated flop pot with a speculative hand.

As played it's definitely a VB.

[sww]

lol at limping preflop/checking behind. Easiest valuebet ever, thin would be something like QJ. 38$ looks good to me but smaller is ok too, I like it bigger if he thinks at all since it looks bluffier.

[BevillTheDevil]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.40/$0.80
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $194.75
UTG+1: $145.15
CO: $155.50
Hero: $173.65
SB: $191.05
BB: $258.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.6</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($8.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $6.4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, BB calls.

Turn: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($48.4, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($48.4, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $88</font>, Hero ??

[TheRenaissance]

Easy fold when he raises.

[sww]

Now it depends on a lot of things. He needs to be quite aggressive and able to think a bit for you to call. He won't valueraise worse but some players will have air here a lot more often than necessary.