Mr_Pathetic
08-31-2007, 08:12 PM
I am about to make my debut at NL10 and while I have a solid NAG/TAG game (22/18-17/15) I feel I am probably going to run into a few more players who play tighter, fold a little more postflop, and in general play a bit better then "zomg I got third pair he bets alot I call".
What I am looking for is characteristics of play both pre and postflop that will allow me to open up. I don't want to fall into the "to get to 25/20 I need to open SCs in more then button and cutoff" type thinking. Quite frankly I do not care what my stats are as I feel that doesn't matter. What I care about is the following...
I want to go about it thinking "this guy will do this, this, this etc so that will allow me to do this this this etc. What I need to do is find out the this's.
Now this is easy when you know a guy is playing 18/15 and will not play back at you. If I am in hands with people who play that way I am normally very loose. But it is the guys who are significantly looser preflop (callPFR 20-30% of time) but somewhat tight postflop who I would like to be able to read and steal from.
So what criteria other then he folds to cbets and folds to turn bets alot that you look for? I am inclined to double barrel scare cards and do the standard bluffy nature that I am accustomed to or should I instead be looking for places to value bet thinly and leave the bluffing of scare cards alone.
Maybe the best thing to do is find a balance b/t the two based off of board texture, my image, opponents level of thinking and skill, and all the contextual clues that have built up while me and the opponent have been in the hand?
I feel like this type of playing needs to be practiced while it is still cheap before I find myself playing significantly higher. If it is any help my line of thought in a hand goes this far "I have my hand etc, I think villain has these hands, and I think villain thinks I have these hands." Not sure what level that is but thats how I do it.
What I am looking for is characteristics of play both pre and postflop that will allow me to open up. I don't want to fall into the "to get to 25/20 I need to open SCs in more then button and cutoff" type thinking. Quite frankly I do not care what my stats are as I feel that doesn't matter. What I care about is the following...
I want to go about it thinking "this guy will do this, this, this etc so that will allow me to do this this this etc. What I need to do is find out the this's.
Now this is easy when you know a guy is playing 18/15 and will not play back at you. If I am in hands with people who play that way I am normally very loose. But it is the guys who are significantly looser preflop (callPFR 20-30% of time) but somewhat tight postflop who I would like to be able to read and steal from.
So what criteria other then he folds to cbets and folds to turn bets alot that you look for? I am inclined to double barrel scare cards and do the standard bluffy nature that I am accustomed to or should I instead be looking for places to value bet thinly and leave the bluffing of scare cards alone.
Maybe the best thing to do is find a balance b/t the two based off of board texture, my image, opponents level of thinking and skill, and all the contextual clues that have built up while me and the opponent have been in the hand?
I feel like this type of playing needs to be practiced while it is still cheap before I find myself playing significantly higher. If it is any help my line of thought in a hand goes this far "I have my hand etc, I think villain has these hands, and I think villain thinks I have these hands." Not sure what level that is but thats how I do it.