**Official uNL Microbrew thread: September** [Archive]

vixticator

08-31-2007, 08:39 PM

LOL taking shot at 25nl anyways...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($9.70)
Button ($25.95)
SB ($25.50)
Hero ($25.25)
UTG ($16.50)
MP ($36.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.85) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.5, UTG raises to $1, CO folds, Hero raises to $3, UTG raises to $16.25, Hero calls $13.25.

Turn: ($33.35) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

River: ($33.35) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $33.35

Results in white below: 
Hero has 8s 2s (full house, eights full of twos).
UTG has 5c 5d (full house, fives full of eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $33.35.

checktheriver

08-31-2007, 08:46 PM

I couldn't find this anywhere, can someone tell me how you show a picture in a post ?

C4LL4W4Y

08-31-2007, 09:07 PM

anyone get any ims from a 'centurainm77'? this guy wanted me to do a 300 dollar swap on him from ftp to epassporte, and i'd never spoken to him prior to tonight. says his name is 'cent' from 2p2. he gets pissed when i mention that he has to send first. the end of the convo goes as follows:

CenturianM77 (9:02:31 PM): whyd you say you could load 300 on epass from ftp in 10?
x RangerS 99 (9:02:36 PM): no no no
CenturianM77 (9:02:43 PM): ''
x RangerS 99: i mean, ill do it for you, but it takes awhile for my $$ to hit epp from ftp
x RangerS 99: sometimes 10 hrs, sometimes 2 days
x RangerS 99: stars, its instant
CenturianM77 (9:02:45 PM): ''
x RangerS 99 (9:02:47 PM): right
CenturianM77 (9:02:50 PM): yeah
CenturianM77 (9:02:58 PM): so you said you could it for me..but ou cont have more than 200 online
CenturianM77 (9:03:00 PM): 200=300?
x RangerS 99 (9:03:01 PM): it would require you to send first
CenturianM77 (9:03:05 PM): lol
x RangerS 99 (9:03:04 PM): if you can't
x RangerS 99 (9:03:05 PM): thats fine
CenturianM77 (9:03:07 PM): [censored] scamming bitch
x RangerS 99 (9:03:08 PM): haha
x RangerS 99 (9:03:11 PM): you're the guy that ims me
x RangerS 99 (9:03:13 PM): gtfo
CenturianM77 (9:03:17 PM): can you not do math [censored]
CenturianM77 (9:03:23 PM): 200=300?
CenturianM77 (9:03:24 PM): lol
CenturianM77 (9:03:27 PM): [censored] tard
x RangerS 99 (9:03:30 PM): the 2 kinda looks like a 3
x RangerS 99 (9:03:43 PM): go randomly im someone else
CenturianM77 (9:03:49 PM): lol
CenturianM77 (9:03:53 PM): this is going on 2+2 and cardrunners
x RangerS 99 (9:03:54 PM): go ahead
CenturianM77 (9:03:56 PM): ban hammer time
x RangerS 99 (9:04:02 PM): ill post the whole convo

vixticator

08-31-2007, 09:10 PM

C4LL4W4Y

08-31-2007, 09:12 PM

seem like a scammer, he signed off right after his last im.

wingchunflush

08-31-2007, 09:32 PM

[censored] i run bad......stupid doomswitch

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

BB ($4.88)
Hero ($1.97)
MP ($2.22)
CO ($3.64)
Button ($2.31)
SB ($1.03)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, CO calls $0.08, 3 folds.

Flop: ($0.19) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.2, CO raises to $0.4, Hero raises to $1.89, CO calls $1.49.

Turn: ($3.97) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: ($3.97) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $3.97

Hero has Qc Qh (one pair, queens).
CO has Js Ad (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: CO wins $3.97.

wingchunflush

08-31-2007, 09:38 PM

God i hate Fridays.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7261/bughoq8.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bughoq8.jpg)
how do i make this big like the others lol?

vixticator

08-31-2007, 09:48 PM

Any tips on how to take notes? Er, not how but what to write, etc. I haven't in the past and think this is something I need to do badly.

wingchunflush

08-31-2007, 09:50 PM

I have been reading a lot of posts and watching alot of CR vids but still seems like my thinking is really opposite compared to the majority. I think about putting it in on some hands then I post them and people say its a bad shove, but I see other posted hands where people are saying shove and I don't get it. How can my thinking be that far off. AIM is lostrelik IM me if you think you can knock some sense into me I want to move up before I die of old age.

DopamineRelease

08-31-2007, 10:17 PM

Wing - When you imageshack brings you to the page where you can chose the link to use you have to use the ones that say hotlink for forums toward the bottom

ShipitFMA

08-31-2007, 10:30 PM

roll now, 800 hopefully finish september with 2k+ and playing 25nl esclusively (br nit, dropping 4-5 buyins when it equates to 1/5th of my roll puts me in a bad frame of mine for my school work) and a few satellites for the T$.

Oh and soon i can order my stars hoodie /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Student Caine

08-31-2007, 10:34 PM

[ QUOTE ]

CenturianM77 (9:03:53 PM): this is going on 2+2 and cardrunners
x RangerS 99 (9:03:54 PM): go ahead
CenturianM77 (9:03:56 PM): ban hammer time
x RangerS 99 (9:04:02 PM): ill post the whole convo

[/ QUOTE ]

Haha, I dunno' what's more appaling, the fact that he thought you would fall for this in the first place or that he figured that once it wasn't working threatening to post it on the forums would somehow make you change your mind. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Student Caine

08-31-2007, 10:47 PM

nm...i got it...

vixticator

08-31-2007, 10:47 PM

Something about laptop and no HUD/PT and one/two tabling is making me triple barrell. That or 25nl, so much tighter than 5nl my head is asploding. It seems to be working more than not. Logic tells me to stop though. Hmm. Seem to be reading hands exceptionally well, it's just the getting them to fold part that has mixed results.

Wow this just happened, been playing pretty crazy at this table... robusto. Time to stop, lol. Biggest pot I have played in yeaaars online.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($36.65)
SB ($17.30)
BB ($8.60)
UTG ($8.15)
MP ($52.70)
CO ($17.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.75, 2 folds, MP calls $2.

Flop: ($5.85) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $4.25, MP calls $4.25.

Turn: ($14.35) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $7, MP calls $7.

River: ($28.35) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $11, MP raises to $38.7, Hero calls $11.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $73.65

Results in white below: 
MP has 4h 4s (three of a kind, fours).
Hero has Ah 6h (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $73.65. MP wins $16.05.

Sean Fraley

09-01-2007, 12:10 AM

[ QUOTE ]
anyone get any ims from a 'centurainm77'? this guy wanted me to do a 300 dollar swap on him from ftp to epassporte, and i'd never spoken to him prior to tonight. says his name is 'cent' from 2p2. he gets pissed when i mention that he has to send first. the end of the convo goes as follows:

CenturianM77 (9:02:31 PM): whyd you say you could load 300 on epass from ftp in 10?
x RangerS 99 (9:02:36 PM): no no no
CenturianM77 (9:02:43 PM): ''
x RangerS 99: i mean, ill do it for you, but it takes awhile for my $$ to hit epp from ftp
x RangerS 99: sometimes 10 hrs, sometimes 2 days
x RangerS 99: stars, its instant
CenturianM77 (9:02:45 PM): ''
x RangerS 99 (9:02:47 PM): right
CenturianM77 (9:02:50 PM): yeah
CenturianM77 (9:02:58 PM): so you said you could it for me..but ou cont have more than 200 online
CenturianM77 (9:03:00 PM): 200=300?
x RangerS 99 (9:03:01 PM): it would require you to send first
CenturianM77 (9:03:05 PM): lol
x RangerS 99 (9:03:04 PM): if you can't
x RangerS 99 (9:03:05 PM): thats fine
CenturianM77 (9:03:07 PM): [censored] scamming bitch
x RangerS 99 (9:03:08 PM): haha
x RangerS 99 (9:03:11 PM): you're the guy that ims me
x RangerS 99 (9:03:13 PM): gtfo
CenturianM77 (9:03:17 PM): can you not do math [censored]
CenturianM77 (9:03:23 PM): 200=300?
CenturianM77 (9:03:24 PM): lol
CenturianM77 (9:03:27 PM): [censored] tard
x RangerS 99 (9:03:30 PM): the 2 kinda looks like a 3
x RangerS 99 (9:03:43 PM): go randomly im someone else
CenturianM77 (9:03:49 PM): lol
CenturianM77 (9:03:53 PM): this is going on 2+2 and cardrunners
x RangerS 99 (9:03:54 PM): go ahead
CenturianM77 (9:03:56 PM): ban hammer time
x RangerS 99 (9:04:02 PM): ill post the whole convo

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I got one earlier but ignored it since I had no idea who it was.

nukewell

09-01-2007, 12:23 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
anyone get any ims from a 'centurainm77'? this guy wanted me to do a 300 dollar swap on him from ftp to epassporte, and i'd never spoken to him prior to tonight. says his name is 'cent' from 2p2.

[/ QUOTE ]Yes. I don't have ftp account so he went away but definitely not moving money for anybody.

[/ QUOTE ]

he aimed me bout rakeback and coaching then insta signed off when i decline

anyway, all the best for sept

Spanky1974

09-01-2007, 02:35 AM

[ QUOTE ]
roll now, 800 hopefully finish september with 2k+ and playing 25nl esclusively (br nit, dropping 4-5 buyins when it equates to 1/5th of my roll puts me in a bad frame of mine for my school work) and a few satellites for the T$.

Oh and soon i can order my stars hoodie /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

stars hoodie will robusto your br. trust me ;-)

whyzze

09-01-2007, 02:44 AM

Sorry...need to vent.

Of the past 40 times I have been dealt aces I have been all in 4 times. I havn't put my money in behind once. I lost all 4. Two 4 outters, and two 2 outters.

I went from running breakeven to horrible...lets hope september turns things around...here are the hands for me to vent with.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $20.25
BB: $50.00
UTG: $53.35
MP: $45.20
CO: $76.05
Hero (BTN): $95.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $7.00, 3 folds, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($15.25) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
CO bets $15.25, Hero raises all-in to $88.40, CO calls all-in for $53.80
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Turn: ($153.35) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($153.35) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $153.35 ($3 Rake)

CO had K/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a straight, Ace high) and WON (+$74.30)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$76.05)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $52.00
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $50.00
CO: $58.05
BTN: $50.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 Players)
Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB raises to $6.50, BB folds, Hero calls $4.75

Flop: ($13.50) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $10.00, Hero raises all-in to $43.50, SB calls $33.50

Turn: ($100.50) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($100.50) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $100.50 ($3 Rake)

SB had K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Kings) and WON (+$47.50)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings) and LOST (-$50.00)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $37.55
BB: $33.70
UTG: $64.25
MP: $77.20
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $51.65

CO posts $0.50
Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, CO calls $5.75

Flop: ($15.75) J/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $12.00, CO raises to $31.00, Hero raises all-in to $44.15, CO calls all-in for $11.50
Uncalled bet of $1.65 returned to Hero

Turn: ($100.75) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($100.75) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $100.75 ($3 Rake)

CO had K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a straight, King high) and WON (+$47.75)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Tens) and LOST (-$50.00)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.50
Hero (BB): $49.00
UTG: $51.10
MP: $83.25
CO: $63.85
BTN: $25.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $7.00, MP raises to $21.25, Hero raises all-in to $49.00, MP calls $27.75

Flop: ($98.25) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Turn: ($98.25) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($98.25) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $98.25 ($3 Rake)

MP had J/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Jacks) and WON (+$46.25)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$49.00)

ajmargarine

09-01-2007, 03:08 AM

Ended up spending the night playing 2 donkeymints, cashing in both but nothing serious. If my KK would have held up in the 50-50 on FT vs JJ on a AK4r flop I probably would have ended with a sweet cash there. Sick runner runner QT. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

I have to stove this:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

990 games 0.062 secs 15,967 games/sec

Board: Ah Ks 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 98.283% 98.28% 00.00% 973 0.00 { KcKd }
Hand 1: 01.717% 01.72% 00.00% 17 0.00 { JcJh }

I was about 10th in chips and the guy who went all in with JJ was probably 30th in chips. I would have been probably chip leader heading towards the bubble with a 9k first prize.

Sigh.

wingchunflush

09-01-2007, 03:18 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry...need to vent.

Of the past 40 times I have been dealt aces I have been all in 4 times. I havn't put my money in behind once. I lost all 4. Two 4 outters, and two 2 outters.

I went from running breakeven to horrible...lets hope september turns things around...here are the hands for me to vent with.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $20.25
BB: $50.00
UTG: $53.35
MP: $45.20
CO: $76.05
Hero (BTN): $95.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $7.00, 3 folds, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($15.25) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
CO bets $15.25, Hero raises all-in to $88.40, CO calls all-in for $53.80
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Turn: ($153.35) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($153.35) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $153.35 ($3 Rake)

CO had K/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a straight, Ace high) and WON (+$74.30)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$76.05)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $52.00
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $50.00
CO: $58.05
BTN: $50.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 Players)
Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB raises to $6.50, BB folds, Hero calls $4.75

Flop: ($13.50) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $10.00, Hero raises all-in to $43.50, SB calls $33.50

Turn: ($100.50) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($100.50) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $100.50 ($3 Rake)

SB had K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Kings) and WON (+$47.50)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings) and LOST (-$50.00)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $37.55
BB: $33.70
UTG: $64.25
MP: $77.20
CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $51.65

CO posts $0.50
Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, CO calls $5.75

Flop: ($15.75) J/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $12.00, CO raises to $31.00, Hero raises all-in to $44.15, CO calls all-in for $11.50
Uncalled bet of $1.65 returned to Hero

Turn: ($100.75) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($100.75) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $100.75 ($3 Rake)

CO had K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a straight, King high) and WON (+$47.75)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Tens) and LOST (-$50.00)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.50
Hero (BB): $49.00
UTG: $51.10
MP: $83.25
CO: $63.85
BTN: $25.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $7.00, MP raises to $21.25, Hero raises all-in to $49.00, MP calls $27.75

Flop: ($98.25) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Turn: ($98.25) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($98.25) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $98.25 ($3 Rake)

MP had J/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Jacks) and WON (+$46.25)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$49.00)

[/ QUOTE ]

I played 975 hands today and had aces not one time. Had [censored] hands and bled chips and couldnt have a draw hit.

Pharcyde

09-01-2007, 06:36 AM

I worked on my game pretty hard in August. I know the hand sample isn't nearly large enough, and a winrate of 4PTBB/100 at NL10 is pretty "meh". Despite this, I'm damn proud of these stats. Hoping to have my winrate up to at least 7PTBB/100 by September's end. GL all.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1108/statska5.png

Chomp

09-01-2007, 07:36 AM

I said it in March. I said it in April. I said it in May. I said it in June. I said it in July. And I said it in August.

But this time, I really mean it.

September will be the breakthrough month from mediocrity to excellence! Bring it.

kabouter

09-01-2007, 07:39 AM

Ok so I didn't play a lot in august (5k hands or so, and lost $200).

Then today it went okish up about $50, when this hand comes along:

Co ($90) raises to $4, I ($160) reraise to $14 with KK (have been doing this a lot to the CO), all of a sudden the BB ($110) 15/9 over 100hands reraises allin.

Now I was pretty sure he must have aces right? But then I thought about what people say on these forums about never folding kings unless it's a 200+ bb pot. Well so I called, and ofcourse aces came along setting me back for the day again. And I lost another $100 later on with a straight vs a flush. So yeah september isn't treating me that good.

I am planning to play a lot this weekend though, so things might turn around. And yes I am going to fold aces against nits next time...

dirtylobster

09-01-2007, 08:47 AM

Sup uNL. I'll be joining you for a while. I moved up to SSNL somewhere in april-may but due to a recent major downswing I'm now gonna grind NL50 on FTP for a while.

ShipitFMA

09-01-2007, 08:59 AM

Had my first 10k breakeven stretch which was pretty weird to experience but good for the learning curve, obviously that was followed by running hotttt

All 10nl, 25 buyins in 5.5k hands was nice /images/graemlins/smile.gif
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1918/loltl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MrWooster

09-01-2007, 09:25 AM

Just having a quick look at 2p2 while I am in Paris - BTW does anyone read the 2p2 online magazine? I have never read it but it looks quite good, would be interested to know how many people do read it. Just been scanning this months issue and there is a very interesting article about why poker is good for you - aimed at people who say poker is 'just gambling' : http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/current/ : read the publishers note...

OT: Anyone heard of the Velib project in Paris? You pay a 1EUR day subscription or a 39EUR year subscription and you can use bicycles located around paris fee of charge. There a 'Velib' stations about every 100m and you just hop on a bike, cycle around a bit and put it back at another station, no idea why they don't do this in london, i think its a really great idea.

kabouter

09-01-2007, 09:57 AM

Any word on a new unl donkament btw? Found it quite funny the last time.
Btw I might have lost money last month, but it seems I've also gained a bump to vip status on my ipoker site /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Chomp

09-01-2007, 11:08 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Any word on a new unl donkament btw? Found it quite funny the last time.
Btw I might have lost money last month, but it seems I've also gained a bump to vip status on my ipoker site /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think at most iP sites VIP Level 3 = VIP Level 1 until you start playing 100NL+. At 50NL and below, there isn't really the opportunity to increase the points you earn as you move up levels because the rakes are never really big enough to allow the extra multiplier to kick in. Even at 100NL the benefit is marginal.

Also, the iP points-to-cash schemes are pretty rubbish to be honest. A bit worse (ie less valuable) than Party Points I think.

kabouter

09-01-2007, 01:07 PM

Ah yeah I'm one level below the last level now (brown I believe), but it really helps I'm earning double the amount of points now, and I've got 1 month left to clear the $600 bonus (39000 points, got around 25000 now, so that shouldn't be too hard).

I do play 100nl though mostly...

hennnerz

09-01-2007, 01:25 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $50
CO: $52.05
Button: $44.95
SB: $75.05
Hero: $89.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif
3 folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $2.5, SB calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $19, SB calls.

Turn: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($43, 2 players)
SB bets $10.5, Hero raises to $26.5, SB raises all-in $56.55, Hero calls.

River: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($156.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $156.1)

Results:
Final pot: $156.1
SB showed Qh Qs
Hero showed 7c 7h

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $103.65
UTG+1: $46
CO: $41.90
Hero: $108.75
SB: $56.10
BB: $23

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.75, 2 folds, UTG raises all-in $103.65, Hero calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

River: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

Results:
Final pot: $208.05
Hero showed Ad Ac
UTG showed Kd Kc

So freaking sick. Down 3.5 buyins over 1.25k hands. Screw september. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

vixticator

09-01-2007, 02:55 PM

Do you fold marginal hands from CO, say QT, if you raised 2-3 hands in a row?

Gelford

09-01-2007, 03:01 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Do you fold marginal hands from CO, say QT, if you raised 2-3 hands in a row?

[/ QUOTE ]

Not really ... but then again I wan't people to start thinking (WTF ??? He's full of [censored] ... I'm gonna show him!!!!)

vixticator

09-01-2007, 03:05 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Not really ... but then again I wan't people to start thinking (WTF ??? He's full of [censored] ... I'm gonna show him!!!!)

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, I always think they are about to 3bet me. Then again I'll do this with Kings after 3 raises and folded around. Heh. I think if my standard raise were 3xbb I would keep plugging away but don't plan on changing that.

ajmargarine

09-01-2007, 03:12 PM

What the heck? Who raises QT from the CO under any circumstances... /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Chomp

09-01-2007, 03:20 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Ah yeah I'm one level below the last level now (brown I believe), but it really helps I'm earning double the amount of points now, and I've got 1 month left to clear the $600 bonus (39000 points, got around 25000 now, so that shouldn't be too hard).

I do play 100nl though mostly...

[/ QUOTE ]

Which skin are you on Kab?

C4LL4W4Y

09-01-2007, 03:28 PM

i haven't been able to get myself to play much lately. i don't know if its laziness, but i'm getting more out of sweating my friends' action and watching this ept live broadcast.

vixticator

09-01-2007, 03:34 PM

[ QUOTE ]
What the heck? Who raises QT from the CO under any circumstances... /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Against players I consider tight or weak in blinds, folding at loose/active table.

Student Caine

09-01-2007, 03:46 PM

Update on the Gelford Ubernit Style:

So I was able to log about 700 hands last night and was able to put together a mind boggling 26 PT BB/100 and netted +4.5 BI's due in part to some really ridiculous luck (I guess I cannot complain about people hitting 2 outers on me for awhile).

I stayed true to the Ubernit style (22+, AQ+) except from the button where I opened things up a little more. I think that one of the biggest factors in my success last night (beyond turning a Q with QQ against KK) was the fact that my cbets worked very effectively. I was able to fold out more players than usual at 10NL with 3/4-pot size cbets. I think that this is due to a few factors:

1. Review of Information: Choosing the right opponents to cbet against
2. Review of the board: cbetting on boards that were likely to hit my raising hand
3. Luck: I happened to make the cbets when the other players totally whiffed.

I believe that Wooster said it first: the biggest benefit provided by the Gelford Ubernit System is that is keeps us from having to make difficult/marginal decisions against opponents whose range of hands are difficult to ascertain.

Anyways, I am going to go review last night's sessions...I'm sure I will have some questions, so I will post them here /images/graemlins/wink.gif

EDIT:

So I was so excited I forgot to give overall stats. After starting the Ubernit Style I am up 7BI's and running at a total of 5 PT BB/100.

Mere words cannot explain how hard I am kicking myself for the 3.5BI meltdown I had last week. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

vixticator

09-01-2007, 03:48 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Update on the Gelford Ubernit Style:

[/ QUOTE ]Did I miss this thread, or?

Student Caine

09-01-2007, 03:56 PM

Dumb question:

In Small Stakes limit games when one flops a backdoor flush draw they will often count that draw as 1 out and add it to their out total.

Does this hold true in no limit, or is the fact that we can be completely priced out on the turn eliminate this as an out?

Gelford

09-01-2007, 04:22 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Update on the Gelford Ubernit Style:

[/ QUOTE ]Did I miss this thread, or?

[/ QUOTE ]

No thread just me during a lag/tag discussion in the brew saying: Hell, just playing 22+ and AQ+ is profitable. Student Caine (and others?) decided to test this statement and so far it looks to be true /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gelford

09-01-2007, 04:23 PM

[ QUOTE ]

the fact that we can be completely priced out on the turn eliminate this as an out

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Student Caine

09-01-2007, 04:38 PM

We were applying it to 10NL specifically as there were at least 2 of us (Wooster and myself) that were scratching our heads as to why we were not crushing the 10NL game (I was running at a screamin' 2 PT BB/100).

It appears that we were probably being a little naive in thinking that we were up against thinking players that could actually let go of marginal holding. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

lippy

09-01-2007, 04:45 PM

Second hand of the month, goot start...

Getting Hand History Information...
----------------------------------------------------------------

Hand #45622869-20141 at San Pedro (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 01/Sep/07 16:40:00

WILD DEUCE is at seat 0 with $49.60.
andwhatthen is at seat 1 with $47.
smythgar1 is at seat 2 with $68.40.
drewfoo is at seat 3 with $46.15.
bmoney2727 is at seat 4 with $35.65.
matawan is at seat 5 with $29.85.
The button is at seat 1.

smythgar1 posts the small blind of $.25.
drewfoo posts the big blind of $.50.

WILD DEUCE: -- --
andwhatthen: As Kc
smythgar1: -- --
drewfoo: -- --
bmoney2727: -- --
matawan: -- --

Pre-flop:

bmoney2727 folds. matawan folds. WILD DEUCE raises
to $1.75. andwhatthen re-raises to $6. smythgar1
folds. drewfoo folds. WILD DEUCE calls.

Flop (board: Td 8s 4c):

WILD DEUCE checks. andwhatthen bets $10. WILD DEUCE
calls.

Turn (board: Td 8s 4c Ks):

WILD DEUCE checks. andwhatthen checks.

River (board: Td 8s 4c Ks 9c):

WILD DEUCE bets $32.75. andwhatthen goes all-in for
$31. WILD DEUCE is returned $1.75 (uncalled).

MrWooster

09-01-2007, 04:45 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Update on the Gelford Ubernit Style:

[/ QUOTE ]Did I miss this thread, or?

[/ QUOTE ]

After Gelford mentioned that he played 10K hands at 20nl playing only 22+, AQo+ (put I rekon he cheated a bit and added a few hands) and made a nice little profit, Student Caine and I (and others?) decided that maybe playing the 'UBERNIT' style was the key to success at 10NL (/25NL) due to several facts. 1) Our opponents were (in general) very un-observant and so would not notice that we only played 10% of our hands, and so would still call down with top pair. 2) Those opponents that are observent, who are also the sort of opponents who we do not want to get into pots with because they have brains, would realise that we only play premium hands and so stay out of our way.

As has been mentioned by several people, playing the UBERNIT style is NOT good poker, it is merly taking advantage of the level of play at 10NL and will only turn a marginal profit with good table selection.

The reason Student Caine and I have adopted this method is that it makes post flop play much much easier and so we can slowly adapt to different opponents and start to open up our ranges when we feel confident about it. Basically, if you are struggling at the micros, it is not a bad idea to play 10K hands using the UBERNIT style, taking in as much information as possible, and then very slowly and methodically adding more hands to your arsenal. This makes post flop play much easier to understand as you are confronted with one situation at a time, and when you have learned how to deal with it, you then (and only then) move on to dealing with the next type of situation. This avoids to overwhelming difficulty of suddenly playing 30% of your hands and having no idea where you stand postflop.....

Hope this helps, not sure if it makes sence but you get the idea...

Gelford

09-01-2007, 04:47 PM

[ QUOTE ]

It appears that we were probably being a little naive in thinking that we were up against thinking players that could actually let go of marginal holding. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/heart.gif

Gelford

09-01-2007, 05:00 PM

[ QUOTE ]

After Gelford mentioned that he played 10K hands at 20nl playing only 22+, AQo+ (put I rekon he cheated a bit and added a few hands)

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah I cheated, But the principle of it holds, to simply play 'stay out of trouble' poker (thus enabling me to 8 table) and just feed of the fish

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9062/20nlaf0.jpg

MT ratio is 6.9

kabouter

09-01-2007, 05:11 PM

Ok so my first long 6 tabling session today after a long time of 15min sessions. And it was terrible... I had some bad luck KK<AA, KK>QQ etc. But probably got lucky on other hands too, well at least I'm happy that I almost cleared my $600 bonus /images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7348/septembergk3.jpg

p.s. what do we do with hands like JQs JTs KTS 87s, etc... when I raise to 4xbb on the button and get minraised by the bb to 8xbb?

hennnerz

09-01-2007, 05:19 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $50
CO: $52.05
Button: $44.95
SB: $75.05
Hero: $89.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif
3 folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $2.5, SB calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $19, SB calls.

Turn: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($43, 2 players)
SB bets $10.5, Hero raises to $26.5, SB raises all-in $56.55, Hero calls.

River: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($156.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $156.1)

Results:
Final pot: $156.1
SB showed Qh Qs
Hero showed 7c 7h

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $103.65
UTG+1: $46
CO: $41.90
Hero: $108.75
SB: $56.10
BB: $23

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.75, 2 folds, UTG raises all-in $103.65, Hero calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

River: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($208.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $208.05)

Results:
Final pot: $208.05
Hero showed Ad Ac
UTG showed Kd Kc

So freaking sick. Down 3.5 buyins over 1.25k hands. Screw september. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[/ QUOTE ]

Whoop, finished up four buyins. Im g000t, but boy am I swingy...

lippy

09-01-2007, 05:25 PM

Spoke too soon...

Getting Hand History Information...
----------------------------------------------------------------

Hand #45643481-13801 at Aibongo (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 01/Sep/07 17:20:02

rkruck is at seat 0 with $49.
keeweewee is at seat 1 with $62.
spiketom is at seat 2 with $47.35.
crip17 is at seat 3 with $88.30.
DaFizz is at seat 4 with $32.75.
LOUISSS_ is at seat 5 with $53.85.
JAYBIRD152325 is at seat 6 with $91.15.
roccodigi is at seat 7 with $24.95.
andwhatthen is at seat 8 with $49.25.
LadyD OOB is at seat 9 with $49.25.
The button is at seat 4.

LOUISSS_ posts the small blind of $.25.
JAYBIRD152325 posts the big blind of $.50.

rkruck: -- --
keeweewee: -- --
spiketom: -- --
crip17: -- --
DaFizz: -- --
LOUISSS_: -- --
JAYBIRD152325: -- --
roccodigi: -- --
andwhatthen: Th Tc
LadyD OOB: -- --

Pre-flop:

roccodigi folds. andwhatthen raises to $2. LadyD
OOB folds. rkruck folds. keeweewee folds.
spiketom folds. crip17 folds. DaFizz folds.
LOUISSS_ folds. JAYBIRD152325 calls.

Flop (board: 7c 3d 4s):

JAYBIRD152325 bets $4.25. andwhatthen raises to $13.
JAYBIRD152325 goes all-in for $89.15. andwhatthen
goes all-in for $47.25. JAYBIRD152325 is returned
$41.90 (uncalled).

Turn (board: 7c 3d 4s Jh):

(no action in this round)

River (board: 7c 3d 4s Jh 9d):

(no action in this round)

Showdown:

JAYBIRD152325 shows 9h 9s.
JAYBIRD152325 has 9h 9s 7c Jh 9d: three nines.
andwhatthen shows Th Tc.
andwhatthen has Th Tc 7c Jh 9d: a pair of tens.

Hand #45643481-13801 Summary:

$3 is raked from a pot of $98.75.
JAYBIRD152325 wins $95.75 with three nines.
----------------------------------------------------------------

ajmargarine

09-01-2007, 05:27 PM

I thought linzaylohan was yvesaint?

hennnerz

09-01-2007, 05:27 PM

Cant you use a converter?

Gelford

09-01-2007, 05:31 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I thought linzaylohan was yvesaint?

[/ QUOTE ]

Tufat is or used to be OMGlinsaylohan

kaz2107

09-01-2007, 06:21 PM

welp my session last night went well and i ran some people over. todays first session however couldnt have gone worse. my biggest net win was 7 frickin bcuks?!!??!?! wtf?!?!?! 400ish hands and all i the biggest pot i win is like 15 bucks. hmmm. and my aggression factore was 5.3 or sumtin. sigh. owww and i got kooler hardcore.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $58.30
Hero: $98.85
CO: $122.70
Button: $76.65
SB: $13.05
BB: $25.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG folds, Hero raises to $2, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif ($4.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button raises to $8.5, Hero calls.

Turn: 9/images/graemlins/club.gif ($21.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button calls.

River: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($49.75, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $74.35, Button calls all-in $52.15.
Uncalled bets: $22.2 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $154.05
Hero Shows 9h As
Button Shows Jc Js

i feel like i am at least playin much better the last day or two so i guess that is positive. /images/graemlins/smile.gif got a pretty interesting hand ill post later.

Triggerle

09-01-2007, 06:51 PM

I recently found out about a leak of mine. I call it the gamer's fallacy tilt.

Say you have been against overpairs 6 times in a row with QQ. If a tight player 3bets pre-flop the leak is to think "no way I'm up against an overpair yet again." and 4bet AI.

If they don't 3bet light you will be against an overpair or AK (50% equity) almost all the time.

BishopsFinger

09-01-2007, 06:52 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I recently found out about a leak of mine. I call it the gamer's fallacy tilt.

Say you have been against overpairs 6 times in a row with QQ. If a tight player 3bets pre-flop the leak is to think "no way I'm up against an overpair yet again." and 4bet AI.

If they don't 3bet light you will be against an overpair or AK (50% equity) almost all the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

i thought you only ever played aa/kk - what you doing with qq man?

vixticator

09-01-2007, 07:37 PM

I'll give ubernit a shot, just to see if I can do it.

kaz2107

09-01-2007, 07:50 PM

any one here watch HOUSE?? i just got tha season 3 dvd like wed and have already watched 20 episodes. lolol. i just got done watching the episode with the kid whose dad is a 2p2er. it is by far the best show on tv right now. not even close imo

PJo336

09-01-2007, 08:05 PM

[ QUOTE ]
any one here watch HOUSE?? i just got tha season 3 dvd like wed and have already watched 20 episodes. lolol. i just got done watching the episode with the kid whose dad is a 2p2er. it is by far the best show on tv right now. not even close imo

[/ QUOTE ]

1. i watch it
2. i have never seen such episode, that sounds awesome
3. best show on tv is the office ldo, followed by lost

RedBarracuda

09-01-2007, 08:15 PM

i had a lovely session today...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1094/1296721517_e0e2bd30f0.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1094/1296721517_04d68c48ce_o.jpg)

jk1986

09-01-2007, 08:25 PM

vixticator

09-01-2007, 08:31 PM

Yikes I got stacked three times. Two just playing terrible. Down to 385 ouch, done with 25nl for month I think lol. If I didn't [censored] crush micro HU SNG I'd prolly be busto, have seriously wonn like 16 in a row under $10bi.

Peter Harris

09-01-2007, 09:03 PM

Righto, i've fixed August's leak, multi street bluffing OOP /images/graemlins/blush.gif

But now i need help on September's horrible horrible leak, calling the river very very light for a lot of money. Please tell me these are all as bad as i think, scold me terribly and from now on i'll post all my awful plays in the hopes you guys will chide me into better service.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $104.70
BB: $51.55
Hero (UTG): $109.80
BTN: $49.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) A/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
BB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($10.75) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

River: ($25.75) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB bets all-in for $38.80, Hero calls $38.80

Pot Size: $103.35 ($2 Rake)

BB had 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (four of a kind, Fours) and WON (+$49.80)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Fours) and LOST (-$51.55)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $55.55
BB: $88.30
UTG: $147.80
CO: $48.25
Hero (BTN): $49.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB folds

Flop: ($3.50) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB calls $3.00

Turn: ($9.50) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

River: ($28.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $28.50, Hero calls $28.50

Pot Size: $85.50 ($3 Rake)

SB had 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (a full house, Twos full of Fives) and WON (+$40.00)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Twos) and LOST (-$42.50)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $47.00
BB: $49.55
UTG: $105.25
MP: $18.50
Hero (CO): $50.50
BTN: $50.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $2.40, BTN raises to $5.00, Hero raises to $12.00, BTN calls $7.00

Turn: ($27.75) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($27.75) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $15.00, Hero calls $15.00

Pot Size: $57.75 ($2.85 Rake)

BTN had 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Threes) and WON (+$26.40)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$28.50)

Christ when you see it all together and realise that's $85 i've pretty much thrown away (not including dubious earlier streets) it's small wonder I'm still at NL50. Thank gods i am and can learn from these mistakes now.

Gelford

09-01-2007, 09:07 PM

Nr 1 is ok, tho I'd might raise the flop

Nr 2 is standard

and the uncoverted I didn't look at

The last hand is one of those hands, where you want to check behind on flop and just call down if he starts betting.

Now stop being results orientated /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Peter Harris

09-01-2007, 09:10 PM

I definitely prefer a flop raise in hand 1 but i thought calling the river bet is pretty hopeful.

Hand 2 i was seriously worried about a 2 being there and wasn't really surprised.

Hand 3 was misplayed on the flop, i agree. Sigh.

At least they weren't as bad as i thought, i just hate going from +2bi over 1k hands to -2bi by the time i've done 1.5k and I was worried it was uber-sloppy play costing me.

Gelford

09-01-2007, 09:11 PM

Have I ever told you, that the dungeon really is a nice little forum, and btw some of you 10NL guys aren't bad players at all /images/graemlins/smile.gif (I am trying to make myself spend more time in SSNL, can't spend my entire life here ... hehe)

Peter Harris

09-01-2007, 09:14 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Have I ever told you, that the dungeon really is a nice little forum, and btw some of you 10NL guys aren't bad players at all /images/graemlins/smile.gif (I am trying to make myself spend more time in SSNL, can't spend my entire life here ... hehe)

[/ QUOTE ]

you're a sweetie, Gelford.

Gelford

09-01-2007, 09:16 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Have I ever told you, that the dungeon really is a nice little forum, and btw some of you 10NL guys aren't bad players at all /images/graemlins/smile.gif (I am trying to make myself spend more time in SSNL, can't spend my entire life here ... hehe)

[/ QUOTE ]

you're a sweetie, Gelford.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll be back to my grumpy old self as soon as I run out of calcium pills /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Mr_Pathetic

09-01-2007, 09:16 PM

Speaking of NL10 players, I will be seeing you at stars tomorrow. I probably won't be building sweaters.

kaz2107

09-01-2007, 09:16 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
any one here watch HOUSE?? i just got tha season 3 dvd like wed and have already watched 20 episodes. lolol. i just got done watching the episode with the kid whose dad is a 2p2er. it is by far the best show on tv right now. not even close imo

[/ QUOTE ]

1. i watch it
2. i have never seen such episode, that sounds awesome
3. best show on tv is the office ldo, followed by lost

[/ QUOTE ]
heres a link to tha thread in case n e one cares.

HOUSE and tha 2p2 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9180662&page=0&fpart=all &vc=1)

and house is much better then lost and from the few episodes ive seen of the office it is better then that as well. its not even close

PJo336

09-01-2007, 09:33 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
any one here watch HOUSE?? i just got tha season 3 dvd like wed and have already watched 20 episodes. lolol. i just got done watching the episode with the kid whose dad is a 2p2er. it is by far the best show on tv right now. not even close imo

[/ QUOTE ]

1. i watch it
2. i have never seen such episode, that sounds awesome
3. best show on tv is the office ldo, followed by lost

[/ QUOTE ]
heres a link to tha thread in case n e one cares.

HOUSE and tha 2p2 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9180662&page=0&fpart=all &vc=1)

and house is much better then lost and from the few episodes ive seen of the office it is better then that as well. its not even close

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif /images/graemlins/blush.gif

WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG, especially about the office

dont get me wrong, house is amazing as well, my top 5 in w/e order are
1. the office
2. lost
3. scrubs
4. fam guy
5. house

and of course televised poker insta tops all of that...unless its that lame UB one on the beach

edit: thanks for the link bro
and does anyone know when the new season of house starts cuz the season finale left me hangin

edit edit: seinfeld pwns all ldo

vixticator

09-01-2007, 09:43 PM

WTF I stop playing poker due to tilting, losing my ass off, and decide to play Madden for a bit. XBox 360 is totally busto, does not work now, red lights, freezing, etc. What else can go wrong today? Oh, right. My alma mater lost to Appalachian State. I should go to bet right now at 10pm just so I don't break my leg or something, ugh.

About "House" I saw the first two seasons, will rent 3rd soon. It's an excellent show but uses forumla way too much. Writing is good and it really doesn't need to be so episodic, would be absolutely great done as a normal series.

tehDiceman

09-02-2007, 12:31 AM

after yesterdays serious letdown by losing 28% of my roll and having my worst month since May, september shows me some welcome arms. first hand is AK, i got AK about 10 times and won every time, got four callers with AA, made a hero call with KQ on a KJxA board to a snap push by villian. overall, +2BI in less than 100 hands. im a happy camper right now.

Mr_Pathetic

09-02-2007, 12:52 AM

I hit a nice heater yesterday at NL5 too. +$40 in 1400 hands. Everything held up. Hopefully it continues for the both of us. No more 20k breakevens at NL5. Hopefully none at NL10 either as I start there tomorrow.

wingchunflush

09-02-2007, 12:57 AM

my first tournament really online. $1 45 man SNG, get to heads up first hand...........look at this I HATE MY LIFE.

PokerStars (2 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif. Hero posts a blind of 300.
Hero (poster) raises, BB raises, Hero calls.

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 12545 (All-In), BB calls.

River: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot:

Hero has 2c 9h (two pair, nines and twos).
BB has Qs 2h (two pair, queens and twos).
Outcome: BB wins .

DopamineRelease

09-02-2007, 01:00 AM

Finally getting back on track, +4.5 BIs during the last two days in 1800 hands. Hopefully sustainable for the rest of the month /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Eric Draven

09-02-2007, 01:20 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
any one here watch HOUSE?? i just got tha season 3 dvd like wed and have already watched 20 episodes. lolol. i just got done watching the episode with the kid whose dad is a 2p2er. it is by far the best show on tv right now. not even close imo

[/ QUOTE ]

1. i watch it
2. i have never seen such episode, that sounds awesome
3. best show on tv is the office ldo, followed by lost

[/ QUOTE ]
heres a link to tha thread in case n e one cares.

HOUSE and tha 2p2 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9180662&page=0&fpart=all &vc=1)

and house is much better then lost and from the few episodes ive seen of the office it is better then that as well. its not even close

[/ QUOTE ]

The Office sorta an acquired taste. It took me about 3 episodes to really get into it, and some of my friends still can't. But besides, nip/tuck is by far the best show on television. Entourage comes in at #4 behind House. Curb Your Enthusiasm will surely jump into the top 2 when it comes off hiatus.

Television has lost a lot of great shows over the last 2 years - Arrested Development, Six Feet Under, The West Wing, Studio 60, The Soparnos, and Veronica Mars off the top of my head.

[ QUOTE ]
WTF I stop playing poker due to tilting, losing my ass off, and decide to play Madden for a bit. XBox 360 is totally busto, does not work now, red lights, freezing, etc. What else can go wrong today? Oh, right. My alma mater lost to Appalachian State. I should go to bet right now at 10pm just so I don't break my leg or something, ugh.

About "House" I saw the first two seasons, will rent 3rd soon. It's an excellent show but uses forumla way too much. Writing is good and it really doesn't need to be so episodic, would be absolutely great done as a normal series.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree but fact that it's so formulaic (almost as bad as L&O/SVU) and we all still love it is a huge testament to the quality of the cast and writers

wingchunflush

09-02-2007, 01:30 AM

I love house, heroes, my name is earl, family guy, office, scrubs. I bought carnivale on DVD that is crazy very good.
Flight of the concords is really good as well. studio 60 was awesome damn nbc for taking it off.

Eric Draven

09-02-2007, 02:20 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I love house, heroes, my name is earl, family guy, office, scrubs. I bought carnivale on DVD that is crazy very good.
Flight of the concords is really good as well. studio 60 was awesome damn nbc for taking it off.

[/ QUOTE ]

You have great taste. Flight of the Concords is really dependent on my mood, but the others would probably be in my top 10 on air. Carnivale got screwed.

As sad as I was to see it go, NBC was actually pretty gracious with Studio 60 - the ratings were abysmal and the show cost NBC a ton. On any other network it would have been canceled pretty early. The guy that ordered the last few episodes (after the initial 13) actually got fired for it. If you liked it a lot, check out Sports Night and The West Wing - creator Aaron Sorkin's 2 other shows.

PJo336

09-02-2007, 02:41 AM

office office office ftw!!!

ajmargarine

09-02-2007, 04:15 AM

Dexter wins.

DaycareInferno

09-02-2007, 04:19 AM

scrubs sucks

wingchunflush

09-02-2007, 04:19 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I love house, heroes, my name is earl, family guy, office, scrubs. I bought carnivale on DVD that is crazy very good.
Flight of the concords is really good as well. studio 60 was awesome damn nbc for taking it off.

[/ QUOTE ]

You have great taste. Flight of the Concords is really dependent on my mood, but the others would probably be in my top 10 on air. Carnivale got screwed.

As sad as I was to see it go, NBC was actually pretty gracious with Studio 60 - the ratings were abysmal and the show cost NBC a ton. On any other network it would have been canceled pretty early. The guy that ordered the last few episodes (after the initial 13) actually got fired for it. If you liked it a lot, check out Sports Night and The West Wing - creator Aaron Sorkin's 2 other shows.

[/ QUOTE ]

flight of the concords is very mood dependent....I am glad they aired the rest of the season for studio 60. Another good show is Firefly, they made a movie based off the show and called it serenity, pretty cool as well.

wingchunflush

09-02-2007, 04:20 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Dexter wins.

[/ QUOTE ]
too true, I was going to mention this but i forgot.

Dexytp22

09-02-2007, 04:50 AM

Wow, transferred over to fulltilt from pokerstars and I'm running hot, up 6 buyins in 3k~ hands. Tis goot.

kabouter

09-02-2007, 05:51 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
any one here watch HOUSE?? i just got tha season 3 dvd like wed and have already watched 20 episodes. lolol. i just got done watching the episode with the kid whose dad is a 2p2er. it is by far the best show on tv right now. not even close imo

[/ QUOTE ]

1. i watch it
2. i have never seen such episode, that sounds awesome
3. best show on tv is the office ldo, followed by lost

[/ QUOTE ]
heres a link to tha thread in case n e one cares.

HOUSE and tha 2p2 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9180662&page=0&fpart=all &vc=1)

and house is much better then lost and from the few episodes ive seen of the office it is better then that as well. its not even close

[/ QUOTE ]

The Office sorta an acquired taste. It took me about 3 episodes to really get into it, and some of my friends still can't. But besides, nip/tuck is by far the best show on television. Entourage comes in at #4 behind House. Curb Your Enthusiasm will surely jump into the top 2 when it comes off hiatus.

Television has lost a lot of great shows over the last 2 years - Arrested Development, Six Feet Under, The West Wing, Studio 60, The Soparnos, and Veronica Mars off the top of my head.

[ QUOTE ]
WTF I stop playing poker due to tilting, losing my ass off, and decide to play Madden for a bit. XBox 360 is totally busto, does not work now, red lights, freezing, etc. What else can go wrong today? Oh, right. My alma mater lost to Appalachian State. I should go to bet right now at 10pm just so I don't break my leg or something, ugh.

About "House" I saw the first two seasons, will rent 3rd soon. It's an excellent show but uses forumla way too much. Writing is good and it really doesn't need to be so episodic, would be absolutely great done as a normal series.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree but fact that it's so formulaic (almost as bad as L&O/SVU) and we all still love it is a huge testament to the quality of the cast and writers

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah entourage, I just got the season 3 box, and I almost finished it, it's really an amazing show (as in you don't have to think, and you want to see the next episode each and every time, it's like fast food).

But House is good too (have the first 2 boxsets), last season of lost was great, and the office is just /images/graemlins/heart.gif

BishopsFinger

09-02-2007, 06:43 AM

[ QUOTE ]
scrubs sucks

[/ QUOTE ]

[x] ban

LordBrun

09-02-2007, 06:57 AM

Brag: Turned $5 into $130 in aprox a week(Stars)

alexDJI

09-02-2007, 08:50 AM

My goal for september is to beat August and move up to 25NL

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/5224/ichaseaugustgraphsvt9.jpg
like half of it is 5NL, the rest is 2 weeks of 10NL

netstorm

09-02-2007, 10:07 AM

Today is a tourneys day for me. Cashed in a few 45-man sng and already took down 1 seat to the sunday mil (convert to T$ obv.) The sats are damn soft though! :O Im 4/54 in my 3rd sat, top 20 get an entry.

let us go go go! And hope I can stay alive in the tourneys long enough to rebuild

kindergartencop

09-02-2007, 10:08 AM

i dont think i made literally any money last month, im sure a bunch of you were given some of my money due to my constant monkey tilt. im playing less this month and hopefully playing better.

netstorm

09-02-2007, 10:14 AM

meh, that didnt go too well. TT < K2 and A6 < AA /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Gelford

09-02-2007, 10:24 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Today is a tourneys day for me. Cashed in a few 45-man sng and already took down 1 seat to the sunday mil (convert to T$ obv.) The sats are damn soft though! :O Im 4/54 in my 3rd sat, top 20 get an entry.

let us go go go! And hope I can stay alive in the tourneys long enough to rebuild

[/ QUOTE ]

And today was the day, where I was reminded that a 5,5BI drop, which happens once in a while suddenly is 1100$ ... hehe /images/graemlins/smile.gif

netstorm

09-02-2007, 10:31 AM

No wai!

Wanna get on AIM for a sec gelf ?

Eric Draven

09-02-2007, 12:36 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Dexter wins.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dexter is great; Weeds is pretty good too.

Edit: Firefly and Serenity have been on my to see list forever, at some point I'll finally get around to it. I know it's one my friend's favorite shows, and everyone I know agrees that it is very good.

tehDiceman

09-02-2007, 01:02 PM

i just ran like a superstar. september rocks my socks off. is 112.6bb/100 sustainable? please god. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

standard? lol

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $9.75
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $2.47
MP: $3.70
CO: $7.47
BTN: $9.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.10, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.82) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $0.65, BTN raises to $1.45, Hero calls $0.80
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Turn: ($3.72) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.45, Hero calls $1.45

River: ($6.62) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

Pot Size: $10.62 ($0.50 Rake)

BTN had K/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (high card King) and LOST (-$5.30)
Hero had 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Nines) and WON (+$4.82)

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $9.96
Hero (BB): $10.28
UTG: $4.34
BTN: $3.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 Players)
UTG folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.15) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BTN raises to $0.65, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.70, BTN calls $1.05
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to BTN

Turn: ($3.55) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $2.25, BTN calls all-in for $1.65
Uncalled bet of $0.60 returned to Hero

River: ($6.85) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $6.85 ($0.30 Rake)

BTN had T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif and LOST (-$3.40)
Hero had 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Threes) and WON (+$3.15)

wish this river would have been the 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif so i could get paid.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $4.95
Hero (BB): $11.05
UTG: $9.93
MP: $4.10
CO: $2.40
BTN: $4.94

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
3 folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.25, SB folds

Flop: ($0.65) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.65) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

River: ($4.15) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $2.89, BTN folds

Pot Size: $7.04 ($0.20 Rake)

wingchunflush

09-02-2007, 01:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Dexter wins.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dexter is great; Weeds is pretty good too.

Edit: Firefly and Serenity have been on my to see list forever, at some point I'll finally get around to it. I know it's one my friend's favorite shows, and everyone I know agrees that it is very good.

[/ QUOTE ]

Just go buy it, its really really good. They cancelled it pretty early though which sucks.

MrWooster

09-02-2007, 02:25 PM

I am a bit sad that futurama has not got a single mention so far..... Its sooo goood

PJo336

09-02-2007, 02:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I am a bit sad that futurama has not got a single mention so far..... Its sooo goood

[/ QUOTE ]

i watch that alot too, are they making new episodes?

kabouter

09-02-2007, 03:12 PM

Woohoo I found it again my precious

http://www.upforanything.net/poker/luckbox.jpg

See, last month was crap, but today has been good!

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/6720/goingupsa4.jpg

Oh and some love for my boy Vinnie Chase!
http://www.spin.com/features/heythisisawesome/images/2006/06/060609_entourage.jpg
Enough poker for today, I'm gonna finish the season 3 boxset now /images/graemlins/wink.gif

netstorm

09-02-2007, 03:17 PM

jesus kab, thats an assload of hands for today? How do you pull this off ? No drinking yesterday? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Baited

09-02-2007, 03:32 PM

I just moved to fulltilt from bodog the 29th, played 5k hands so far (2.3k were a mix from last night early this morning)

I plan on playing 2-2.5k hands a day, some days I will get a lot less though because of school :\

First day on full tilt I dropped 4.5 buy ins (nl25) but now I'm up 5 from my initial deposit, and $40 of my bonus has cleared and rakeback /images/graemlins/smile.gif

september is starting out good

PJo336

09-02-2007, 03:35 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I just moved to fulltilt from bodog the 29th, played 5k hands so far (2.3k were a mix from last night early this morning)

I plan on playing 2-2.5k hands a day, some days I will get a lot less though because of school :\

First day on full tilt I dropped 4.5 buy ins (nl25) but now I'm up 5 from my initial deposit, and $40 of my bonus has cleared and rakeback /images/graemlins/smile.gif

september is starting out good

[/ QUOTE ]

take full advantage of the newb boomswitch on ftp. Uve got about 3 months till riggedness kicks in /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

kabouter

09-02-2007, 03:43 PM

[ QUOTE ]
jesus kab, thats an assload of hands for today? How do you pull this off ? No drinking yesterday? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Lol that was my complete last month of august, except for the upswing that is 4 hours of 6tabling /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

netstorm

09-02-2007, 04:03 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
jesus kab, thats an assload of hands for today? How do you pull this off ? No drinking yesterday? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Lol that was my complete last month of august, except for the upswing that is 4 hours of 6tabling /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

[/ QUOTE ]

jesus. Play more you pussy!

wingchunflush

09-02-2007, 04:03 PM

So I tried the gelford ubernit style, 22+ and AQ+ but on the button I raised ATC as long as there was no more than one limper. Good results, best results I have seen in awhile I will stick with this. First shot at 8 tabling, got in a large amount of hands in about 1.5 hours.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1091/ubergraphne6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5094/ubernitik0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hennnerz

09-02-2007, 04:26 PM

Is it worth downloading the first series of Studio 60?

wingchunflush

09-02-2007, 04:31 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Is it worth downloading the first series of Studio 60?

[/ QUOTE ]

I would say yea, its a pretty good show not a whole lot of episodes so shouldn't take that long.

hennnerz

09-02-2007, 04:36 PM

Awesome, got it going now. /images/graemlins/heart.gif demonoid

Eric Draven

09-02-2007, 04:57 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Is it worth downloading the first series of Studio 60?

[/ QUOTE ]

Apparently most of America thinks not, as it lost two thirds of it's initial viewership by the 7th episode, but I think the show is great. The first episode has to be one of the best first episodes of a show ever in my opinion. It's sorta fast paced though, might want to watch the first episode twice if you are someone who doesn't devote their full attention to the TV (computer).

wingchunflush

09-02-2007, 05:02 PM

I think the show got better after the 7th episode you got to understand the quirks of the characters. NBC does have a habit of making bad decisions. The black donnelleys WTF was that, and they are making a series of the Caveman insurance guys ffs

jjb108

09-02-2007, 05:27 PM

Villain is 58/33 over 38 hands.

Villains hand range here? Anyone give me a scenario where I fold this? 3-bet size PF ok?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $9.50
Hero (BB): $46.50
BTN: $33.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
BTN raises to $1.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $2.75

Flop: ($9.25) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.00, Hero raises to $13.75, BTN raises to $25.50, Hero ...

foal

09-02-2007, 05:30 PM

Wow my Poker Tracker and PGrapher are starting to piss me off. I can't get any NL10 hands to load, I get some error now, out of the blue. Yesterday I played a session where I won 2 big pots at the end after being stuck about 14 dollars. PTracker decided not to record the end of my session. I did "force import", no good. Now my roll and my ptracker data conflict.
Pgrapher is getting errory on me and refuses to make graphs anymore. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Baited

09-02-2007, 05:55 PM

[ QUOTE ]
take full advantage of the newb boomswitch on ftp. Uve got about 3 months till riggedness kicks in /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I lost the buy ins first day because i was adjusting to the play... it's a lot different on bodog.
However I plan on taking advantage of it /images/graemlins/wink.gif
AA 22 times in 4.8k hands, AK 57 times AQ 64 KK 15

Dexytp22

09-02-2007, 06:40 PM

LOL funniest hand ever.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $54.25
Hero (BB): $129.20
UTG: $79.35
MP: $50.70
CO: $61.70
BTN: $47.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
4 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

Turn: ($3) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

River: ($9) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB bets all-in for $49.75, Hero calls $49.75

Pot Size: $108.50 ($3 Rake)

SB had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif ([Ad Ac] a full house, Nines full of Aces) and LOST (-$54.25)
Hero had 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (four of a kind, Nines) and WON (+$51.25)

Dexytp22

09-02-2007, 06:46 PM

Then this. . .

I 4bet out of the blinds with ak, and I'm called by 66, who hits a set. WOW WOW WOW. he had a 100bb stack, horrid play, and he keeps going about how he "pwned" me
.

Ikaika

09-02-2007, 06:47 PM

Down another two buyins today...had a severe case of FPS in one hand where I tried to push a guy off of the TPNK I put him on and obv he didn't fold it. Sigh.

shoxbb6

09-02-2007, 06:58 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Villain is 58/33 over 38 hands.

Villains hand range here? Anyone give me a scenario where I fold this? 3-bet size PF ok?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $9.50
Hero (BB): $46.50
BTN: $33.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
BTN raises to $1.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $2.75

Flop: ($9.25) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.00, Hero raises to $13.75, BTN raises to $25.50, Hero ...

[/ QUOTE ]
Reraise more pre, why are you checkraising as the pfr? Get it all in as fast as you can.

PJo336

09-02-2007, 08:18 PM

Can anyone tell me how i can end this?

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6217/runlikeshitbp9.png

my rolls gonna go busto soon if my damn w$@sd wont go up

here is today when i tried to be a nit

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1724/runlikeshit2ey3.png

can someone help me? i like playing poker but cant without money

Mr_Pathetic

09-02-2007, 08:21 PM

the only way out is through.

for real though i ran through a 7500 hand downswing at NL5 on stars in july. Go through every hand over 4xbb (or std PFR) and look over it for mistakes. If you cannot spot mistakes in some of your hands then you might have some problems.

PJo336

09-02-2007, 08:30 PM

i dont think it should be this hard to beat 25nl. In that 4k sample ive been set over setted twice and flush over flushed 3 times all for buy ins. HOW THE [censored] DO I GET MY WON $@SD UP AHHHHHHHHHH

Gelford

09-02-2007, 08:31 PM

PJ here is the deal: (and this is off course only based on your statistics, I can't do magic, but what comes to mind)

1. There is an odd balance in your aggression stats, usually the run something like 5/3/2 or 6/3/1,5 or similar when you see 'em, but you have this flopaggression that is is a wee bit low (but this is normal with uNL'ers) but surprisingly your river aggression is thru the roof. So based on this two possible mistakes come to mind. Either you are overvaluing marginal hands and thus play for stacks and/or raise/checkraise where you should be checking behind or just calling.

Or

You like to pull big bluff on the last street, either C/R all in or raise all in ... all very macho (See 2. below as well)

2. You cold call a [censored] on the BTN. Position is all very well, but you seen not just to call for implied odds once in a while, with that coldcalling frequencies I have hunch that you like to float and get involved in macho stabbing in the dark bluff wars .. cut it out til you reach 200NL or similar. (Im guessing here .. but I pride myself at being a good guesser)

Did I hit the nail on the head ?

vixticator

09-02-2007, 08:38 PM

Is this something you'd consider doing?

I thought he had nada here, been playing with 'em a while...

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $12.88
BB: $4.10
UTG: $7.72
BTN: $12.33

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
UTG folds, BTN calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.03, BB checks

Flop: ($0.15) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $0.10, BB folds, BTN raises to $0.25, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.65) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.65) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.70

PJo336

09-02-2007, 08:41 PM

I think im fairly smart in terms of not drastically bluffing at 25nl. I have moved thru it before, im just trying to do it again. Also, I havent played for stacks with anything less than 2pr or a draw with 14 or more outs. Im not sittng here stacking off with AK on an A Q 9 board

ur thoughts about my river aggression do bring up a very interesting point. I think i may try to value bet pretty thin, which may not be in my best interest this low. However that also comes from pot control, IE previous hand example, i bet flop, check turn, bet river. But even so, I think that may be a sample size issue, cuz i dont remember sitting here thinking "should i vbet here or is it too thin" more than a few times. Im def gonna gauge the aggression progression over the next few sessions tho, if i decide to ever play again

Gelford

09-02-2007, 08:46 PM

I suspect that is where you leak is ... there is something wierd with that river aggression (High aggro is good, but this seen odd)

So either you value to thin or ?

Perhaps you apply pot control on boards that are too wet to control and thus run into akward spot on the river ... dunno

Also some boards are wet and you can't potcontrol ... but what you do is, that you sometimes then check your marginal hand behind on river once the need for protection is gone. Also in spots where you mostly are against a whiffed draw and that is the only thing you beat, let him bluff at you, instead of betting, which folds out the whiffed draw and allows strong hand to raise you.

Dunno ... just thoughts, but here is something there.

AND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

You cold call too much on the btn .. 3bet or fold some of that stuff /images/graemlins/smile.gif

PJo336

09-02-2007, 08:49 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Also some boards are wet and you can't potcontrol ... but what you do is, that you sometimes then check your marginal hand behind on river once the need for protection is gone. Also in spots where you mostly are against a whiffed draw and that is the only thing you beat, let him bluff at you, instead of betting, which folds out the whiffed draw and allows strong hand to raise you.

[/ QUOTE ]
If there is one strength for me in poker, it is situations like this. I induce more bluffs than phil hellmuth

[ QUOTE ]
You cold call too much on the btn .. 3bet or fold some of that stuff /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

lol, will do, but then where do i get to call from?!?! that button gets so lonely

Gelford

09-02-2007, 08:53 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Im not sittng here stacking off with AK on an A Q 9 board

[/ QUOTE ]

Just noticed this .. and WTF ???????????????????

It all depends on villians, but stacking of with AK is perfectly legit.

If you potcontrol all our non 2pair+ set whatever hands, then you are on your way to the poor house, you win half stacks when ahead and lose full stack when behind,

As said by me recently in the brew, the biggest 2+2 induced leak is taking the small hand small pot big hand big pot advice to a too big degree.

Potcontrol is all very well, but if you have a villian that will stack of with Ax, then you are going broke always with AK hitting TPTK.

I pot control like crazy all the time, but that can be TJs hitting tpmehk or hell J5s hitting TPNK or middle pair.

BUT ... taking pride in not staking of with AK hitting an A without further reads at 25NL is not optimal /images/graemlins/smile.gif

meleader2

09-02-2007, 08:56 PM

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $133.50
BB: $53.60
UTG: $50.00
CO: $129.45
Hero (BTN): $133.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $2.00, Hero raises to $10.50, SB calls $8.50

Turn: ($25.50) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25.50, SB calls $25.50

River: ($76.50) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $36.00, SB calls $36.00

Pot Size: $148.50 ($3 Rake)

SB had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif ([Ad Ah] a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$74.00)
Hero had Q/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif (two pair, Kings and Queens) and WON (+$71.50)

PJo336

09-02-2007, 08:57 PM

blehhh, iv lost so many buy ins with that situation. I CERTAINLY didnt mean im not getting it all in on a 60/2 monkey, never was not used, it is possible dependant on the monkeyness/fishiness of my villian, but overall, id rather keep it fairly sizeable, LIKE PNL SAYS!!! SPR of 4 yo

Gelford

09-02-2007, 08:57 PM

[ QUOTE ]

lol, will do, but then where do i get to call from?!?! that button gets so lonely

[/ QUOTE ]

I overcall a lot, but I am not now and have never been a big fan of calling (I remember Tickner telling me: WTF ???? YOU NEVER CALL ! .. I think to recall him claiming it a leak, and maybe it is, but 6 months later I'm still not calling a lot ... tho I have moved AK(/AQ) from my threebetting range to run 50/50 between calling and 3betting depending on the player raising)

PJo336

09-02-2007, 09:00 PM

i think im just gonna quit for a while, i obvi suck

Guruman

09-02-2007, 09:04 PM

went a real life casino yesterday and took a little $200 buy in and bumped it on up to 1k thanks in large part to a middle-eastern family's family reunion inspiring the group to come gambool it up deeps stacked style.

Dude sitting to my left tripled up early off other players and then proceeded to check/call his whole stack off to me.

I'm still glowing a little. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gelford

09-02-2007, 09:09 PM

[ QUOTE ]
i think im just gonna quit for a while, i obvi suck

[/ QUOTE ]

All in the eye of the beholder /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Tho if you start getting all emo about your game, I am going to fry you !!! (hehe)

Hard work ... you now have a couple of things to think about, now go observe your game and implement .... come back if it still does not work ... rinse, wash and repeat.

(Not aimed at you)
Poker is a golden goose, but as with every kinda work, you gotta put in the hours and get greased up, dunno why it has for many become an ego thing (OMG, I'm playing retards and they are pwning me ... I'd better tilt and then post a lot of crap in the brew)

Btw ... I dropped 1400$ today /images/graemlins/smile.gif

meleader2

09-02-2007, 09:10 PM

my image is 31/28/8 at this table. look at what i get a 13/8/1 to do...

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $99.45
BB: $50.85
Hero (UTG): $103.10
MP: $140.25
CO: $53.60
BTN: $49.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
Hero raises to $2.00, 4 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.25, BB calls $4.25

Turn: ($12.75) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.25, BB calls $8.25

River: ($29.25) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $19.00, BB calls $19.00

Pot Size: $67.25 ($3 Rake)

BB had J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and Sixes) and LOST (-$33.50)
Hero had Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a full house, Queens full of Sixes) and WON (+$30.75)

vixticator

09-02-2007, 09:12 PM

After my 25nl road to bustoville yesterday I moved back down to 5nl/10nl and am up 4 buy-in's. Winning flips does help and so does KK>AA.

Gelford

09-02-2007, 09:19 PM

Well I'm far too tired and sound like a broken record

PJ - give us a trip report in a few days /images/graemlins/smile.gif

meleader2

09-02-2007, 09:34 PM

his river push was xxxpert

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $37.40
BB: $74.00
UTG: $52.25
MP: $94.35
CO: $49.00
Hero (BTN): $79.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) K/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

Turn: ($13.50) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13.50, SB calls $13.50

River: ($40.50) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB bets all-in for $17.40, Hero calls $17.40

Pot Size: $75.30 ($3 Rake)

SB had 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ([5s Ks] a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$37.40)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Kings and Twos) and WON (+$34.90)

hennnerz

09-02-2007, 09:43 PM

table select better and read more, learn to float, double barrel, play more, tighten up a bit...

PJo336

09-02-2007, 09:56 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Well I'm far too tired and sound like a broken record

PJ - give us a trip report in a few days /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

will do..and that comment seemed slightly towards me /images/graemlins/wink.gif

kaz2107

09-02-2007, 10:18 PM

i honestly just played one of the best sessions of my life. lol. only made 65 bucks due to a couple suck outs and a cooler but i honestly played nearly perfect. all my bluffs works, when i decicded to take weird lines they worked exactly how i wanted them too and i vbet perfectly. it was awsome. such a good feeling. i had this one reg who plays like 31 23 4 was playin 3 handed and i had postion on him and completely owned him. it was bad ass. ahhh i am in love with poker... untill i run like ass again obv

vixticator

09-02-2007, 10:25 PM

[ QUOTE ]
i honestly just played one of the best sessions of my life. lol. only made 65 bucks due to a couple suck outs and a cooler but i honestly played nearly perfect. all my bluffs works, when i decicded to take weird lines they worked exactly how i wanted them too and i vbet perfectly. it was awsome. such a good feeling. i had this one reg who plays like 31 23 4 was playin 3 handed and i had postion on him and completely owned him. it was bad ass. ahhh i am in love with poker... untill i run like ass again obv

[/ QUOTE ]I love those days. Then go on tilt next day when I make an excellent read and bluff then get called by bottom pair in 3-bet pot and donate most of it back. POOOOKER!

PJo336

09-02-2007, 10:29 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i honestly just played one of the best sessions of my life. lol. only made 65 bucks due to a couple suck outs and a cooler but i honestly played nearly perfect. all my bluffs works, when i decicded to take weird lines they worked exactly how i wanted them too and i vbet perfectly. it was awsome. such a good feeling. i had this one reg who plays like 31 23 4 was playin 3 handed and i had postion on him and completely owned him. it was bad ass. ahhh i am in love with poker... untill i run like ass again obv

[/ QUOTE ]I love those days. Then go on tilt next day when I make an excellent read and bluff then get called by bottom pair in 3-bet pot and donate most of it back. POOOOKER!

[/ QUOTE ]
lol

Mr_Pathetic

09-02-2007, 10:41 PM

My aggression was 4/2/4 tonight and I never bluffed river. What happened to me mostly was I bet flop in position cause they check, they bet turn cause they think I am FOS so I call to allow them to bet river but then they check river and I bet for value. At least that is how I think it went down. Won't know for sure till I go through them all tomorrow but my biggest screw up tonight happened on me making a stupid read against vahdeani for my stack. Hello $7.65 mistake.

And this little gem of a hand. My thoughts are he would never play a set or two pair like that on flop but he seems committed probably cause I have raised the last 30 hands preflop and bet flop cause I hit at least 20 times. Thought for sure he was calling me with KK,JJ,TT. I put him all in as he only had PSB left anyway and I wasn't folding since I had flush draw so figured I would bet instead of call it off.
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $10.70
BB: $3.65
Hero (UTG): $13.50
MP: $9.05
CO: $11.40
BTN: $14.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (6 Players)
Hero raises to $0.40, MP raises to $1.20, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.80
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Flop: ($2.55) 2http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $1.80, MP calls $1.80

Turn: ($6.15) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $10.50, MP calls all-in for $6.05
Uncalled bet of $4.45 returned to Hero

River: ($18.25) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $18.25 ($0.85 Rake)

MP had 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (three of a kind, Nines) and WON (+$8.35)
Hero had Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$9.05)

kaz2107

09-02-2007, 10:52 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i honestly just played one of the best sessions of my life. lol. only made 65 bucks due to a couple suck outs and a cooler but i honestly played nearly perfect. all my bluffs works, when i decicded to take weird lines they worked exactly how i wanted them too and i vbet perfectly. it was awsome. such a good feeling. i had this one reg who plays like 31 23 4 was playin 3 handed and i had postion on him and completely owned him. it was bad ass. ahhh i am in love with poker... untill i run like ass again obv

[/ QUOTE ]I love those days. Then go on tilt next day when I make an excellent read and bluff then get called by bottom pair in 3-bet pot and donate most of it back. POOOOKER!

[/ QUOTE ]
lol

[/ QUOTE ]this will without a doubt happen tomorow. i quit my session like 10 mins early becuase i was worried i would get call happy or fps. lol. tomorow it is almost guarnteed some one will call one of my bluffs on the turn with like 78o and spike a 7 to take down the pot

kaz2107

09-02-2007, 10:53 PM

wut tha F. who locked the "micro stakes" thread??? that had me crackin up. lololol.

vixticator

09-02-2007, 10:58 PM

[ QUOTE ]
this will without a doubt happen tomorow. i quit my session like 10 mins early becuase i was worried i would get call happy or fps. lol. tomorow it is almost guarnteed some one will call one of my bluffs on the turn with like 78o and spike a 7 to take down the pot

[/ QUOTE ]Yep. Weird thing about me is when it happens I tilt but not in the typical way. I don't start raising or betting with nothing a lot more, play slightly more hands. I just start making super light calls and let people go to valuetown all day. I don't even think they are bluffing, don't get paranoid or anything. It's more like, they saw me bluff earlier, I have middle pair so it's prob good on this turn... or that likely made his straight but I have a pair so obv not folding. Not on tilt I make these clear folds without much thought. Ugh.

Peter Harris

09-02-2007, 11:07 PM

[ QUOTE ]
went a real life casino yesterday and took a little $200 buy in and bumped it on up to 1k thanks in large part to a middle-eastern family's family reunion inspiring the group to come gambool it up deeps stacked style.

Dude sitting to my left tripled up early off other players and then proceeded to check/call his whole stack off to me.

I'm still glowing a little. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Damn, Guru, I need to come back so we can play NL next time /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ikaika

09-03-2007, 12:12 AM

So...the downswing continues in spite of what I feel has been much better play. Flush card hits on river like 100% of the time, no action on big hands. One of these days I'll win again...I hope.

DopamineRelease

09-03-2007, 12:28 AM

Villian was 16/12/2 over 30ish hands. What do you guys do here? Call, shove, or 4 bet? Im debating which is the better line

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $30.20
BB: $25.35
UTG: $20.75
MP: $54.95
Hero (CO): $26.85
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB folds, BB raises to $4.00

Pot Size: $5.80

JimboNYY24

09-03-2007, 12:30 AM

WHY ARE THE HEADSUP TABLES SO RIGGED??!! AHHHHHHHHHH

vixticator

09-03-2007, 12:57 AM

I decided to play limit for a few hundred hands. First hand AA, nice. Beat by runner runner two pair, omg. Not giving up. Open more tables. Flop quads vs maniac and someone with overpair, both all-in, in limit, by end of hand. Cha-ching. River set against middle pair. Profit. Value bet big hands. Profit. I'm done now +60 big bets. Limitttttttt!

vixticator

09-03-2007, 01:00 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Villian was 16/12/2 over 30ish hands. What do you guys do here? Call, shove, or 4 bet? Im debating which is the better line

[/ QUOTE ]There's really no 4bet amount he is calling and not a push. Calling isn't terrible since you have position and can move over his c-bet but it gives him a chance to fold worst hand. So, I'd just push every time.

DopamineRelease

09-03-2007, 01:30 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Villian was 16/12/2 over 30ish hands. What do you guys do here? Call, shove, or 4 bet? Im debating which is the better line

[/ QUOTE ]There's really no 4bet amount he is calling and not a push. Calling isn't terrible since you have position and can move over his c-bet but it gives him a chance to fold worst hand. So, I'd just push every time.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yep, I decided if hes calling a 4bet then hes obv calling a shove. I agree with what you are saying about just calling. If I call and the flop comes Qxx then he would most likely cbet and fold to a raise with JJ.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $30.20
BB: $25.35
UTG: $20.75
MP: $54.95
Hero (CO): $26.85
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB folds, BB raises to $4.00, Hero raises all-in to $26.85, BTN folds, BB calls all-in for $21.35
Uncalled bet of $1.50 returned to Hero

Flop: ($51.65) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Turn: ($51.65) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($51.65) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $51.65 ($2.55 Rake)

BB had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$23.75)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$25.35)

Not being results oriented or anything just checking the best line for this situation, thanks.

RichAM

09-03-2007, 01:33 AM

I still won't fold KK preflop ... u have AA then good luck to me

vixticator

09-03-2007, 01:36 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I still won't fold KK preflop ... u have AA then good luck to me

[/ QUOTE ]Spike a King next time. I pushed QQ earlier today and ran into KK, oh well. It was 5nl so I know they will call lighter. The dude took half time bank to call with kings, lol. I also moved in with AK today and beat QQ. When I regularly play 25nl am I wanting to push AK/QQ pf or no? Hmm. It seems close.

Ikaika

09-03-2007, 02:08 AM

AK and QQ not so much at 25nl imo...people don't show up with hands you're ahead of very often.

Peter Harris

09-03-2007, 03:30 AM

1st/1095 in $25 MTT for a balla $5.3k

That'll build my BR for NL100 nicely!

I played so well (lucky too - my AK and small pairs always won, as it has to in MTTs). The tourneys levels move up damn fast, but most of the oppo are weaktight and let me run over them. Stacked 2nd chip at FT when my A9 vs his A8 flopped 98x turned A.

WOOT!

DaycareInferno

09-03-2007, 03:36 AM

i'm running into some real bluff wizards tonight

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

villain shows

SB: $63.20
BB: $32.05
Hero (UTG): $44.25
MP: $33.30
CO: $29.25
BTN: $0.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
BTN raises to $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, MP folds, CO calls $1.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
BTN checks, Hero bets $3.35, CO folds, BTN calls $3.35

Turn: ($10.05) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BTN checks, Hero bets $6.45, BTN calls $6.45

River: ($22.95) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
BTN bets all-in for $14.70, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $14.70 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $22.95 ($1.10 Rake)

villain shows [8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif] a pair of Eights

...

Peter Harris

09-03-2007, 03:40 AM

next time you'll be picking him off with the A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. relax.

DaycareInferno

09-03-2007, 03:44 AM

i'm not exactly worried about it. i just thought it was amusing.

payoff wizard

09-03-2007, 03:45 AM

Had a great weekend playing 50NL at Party.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3721/50nlfe2.jpg

Much love for drunken tourists.

Peter Harris

09-03-2007, 03:48 AM

sick work man, congrats

wingchunflush

09-03-2007, 03:50 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Had a great weekend playing 50NL at Party.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3721/50nlfe2.jpg

Much love for drunken tourists.

[/ QUOTE ]

very nice

Worm75

09-03-2007, 03:54 AM

Seriously if I could remove the weekends from my playing schedule, I would be so +EV

Graph looks like a damn rollercoaster, +4 buyins, then down 4 then up 4.

Just played a 1200 hand session where I managed to miss every one of my draws/semibluffs, and have it fold around everytime I had a big pocket pair.

No sets, and the one big pot I get with QQ, I run into AA on the flop.....

The worst part about it is seeing the level of play around you( I played on 3 tables today with a VP$P of over 50%, and against 2 villains who played 90% of their hands.) and knowing if the cards would break even you would be raking in money!!

Ahhhh enough of the rant, back to the grind tomorrow, where the cards will even out...

I hope

payoff wizard

09-03-2007, 03:57 AM

Really, weekends tend to have much weaker players.

Peter Harris

09-03-2007, 04:05 AM

[ QUOTE ]
+4 buyins, then down 4 then up 4.

[/ QUOTE ]

I've been looking the same recently. Graph is a damn sine wave. Variance at it's finest!

Worm75

09-03-2007, 04:17 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Really, weekends tend to have much weaker players.

[/ QUOTE ]

Really....never realized that before

wingchunflush

09-03-2007, 04:23 AM

You just have to expect bigger swings on the weekends. Not the best time to take a shot at a higher level, trust me I tried.

kaz2107

09-03-2007, 07:45 AM

god. 8 am classes need to die. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Chomp

09-03-2007, 08:41 AM

Feel the power of my cbets you donk!!

.................................

Converter at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($85.20)
SB ($63.93)
BB Hero ($49.25)
UTG ($54.00)
UTG+1 UTG+1 ($41.30)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with J /images/graemlins/club.gif J /images/graemlins/spade.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 2.00, Button calls 2.00, SB calls 1.75, Hero raises to 8.00, UTG+1 calls 6.50, 2 folds.

Flop (21.00) 6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Hero bets 1.00 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

lol misclickaments. And obv he called pre with a pp and owned me with a set, bastardo. Bring it you monkey.

BishopsFinger

09-03-2007, 08:49 AM

is your pf bet size standard there cos mine is usually bigger?

Chomp

09-03-2007, 08:53 AM

No, you are right BF, the pf 3b size sucks. One of those dozy multi-tabling mistakes. Fwiw though, I think it still makes one player calling with a pp marginally -EV though.

tehDiceman

09-03-2007, 09:39 AM

do you raise that to around $18ish? i still have problem with reraise sizing when there were callers ahead of me.

BishopsFinger

09-03-2007, 09:40 AM

id make it ~12.5

tehDiceman

09-03-2007, 10:22 AM

[ QUOTE ]
id make it ~12.5

[/ QUOTE ]

and how do you come to that conclusion?

played a couple hundred hands just now. ended up stacking off with AK PF against two players, tried to isolate against a shortstack and a full stack pushed on me. pot commitment an all. of course the big stack had TT and the short stack had JJ.

then the really big stack starts 3betting me on multiple tables. i gave him the benefit of the doubt the first couple times but he did it to me when i had AQo and i 4bet him, he calls. the flop is KJx all diamonds, i dont have a diamond. i lead out cause it is a 4bet pot, he pushes, i have 3 behind, silly pot commitment again. i hit a T on the river for the nut straight, he flopped a set of jacks, he really loves them jacks. yay on getting my money back.

then on another table that he is sitting with me, i had QQ, he 3bets me again, i 4bet him again, flop comes rags i think, i lead out and he folds. bout time. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Student Caine

09-03-2007, 11:40 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Seriously if I could remove the weekends from my playing schedule, I would be so +EV

Graph looks like a damn rollercoaster, +4 buyins, then down 4 then up 4.

Just played a 1200 hand session where I managed to miss every one of my draws/semibluffs, and have it fold around everytime I had a big pocket pair.

No sets, and the one big pot I get with QQ, I run into AA on the flop.....

The worst part about it is seeing the level of play around you( I played on 3 tables today with a VP$P of over 50%, and against 2 villains who played 90% of their hands.) and knowing if the cards would break even you would be raking in money!!

Ahhhh enough of the rant, back to the grind tomorrow, where the cards will even out...

I hope

[/ QUOTE ]

Weekends are the time for big swings in our bankrolls. We get chased down by junk and we can get caught every once in a while, which really sucks. The good news is that over the long haul, if we play our good, solid game, weekends should be our most profitable time. The trick is not tilting when you get stung by 3 outers 4 times in a row...

jk1986

09-03-2007, 01:22 PM

Brag: Pendulum playing our uni next month
Beat: Can't buy tickets cos uni site sucks balls and won't let me in or answer my email /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Chomp

09-03-2007, 02:29 PM

Brag: No idea who Pendulum are/is.

kaz2107

09-03-2007, 02:48 PM

im goin on a posting rampage. i have like the last 5 posts. lololol.

oww yea and i have com to a descion on how to best solve my problem. not a great solution but meh. since i apparently cant get HD thru direct tv cuz of damn trees i am gonna use tha money i was gonna pay for that to get a subscription to blockbuster online or wutever it is called and get a million blue ray dvds each month untill i have seen EVERYONE blockbuster carries. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

hennnerz

09-03-2007, 02:58 PM

yo ppl, whats up with this lucky 7s thing on FTP? Do i wanna opt in?

Kimo White Devil

09-03-2007, 02:59 PM

Ok need advice. The 1600x1200 screen is coming and I am wondering what setup would be best for grinding 100NL.

FT 9-table, all on the screen. this is like 750 hands/hour 27% RB
UB 6-table, 4on the new screen, 2 on my laptop. This is like 630 hands/hour 30%RB +infinite bonus clearance.

I am thinking that playing 3 less tables at UB and having the inifnite reload boni to actually make more $/hour there but im not sure.

Oh and my life tilt is gone, 3 day weekends with family away from home make wonders.

Holla POKER! and Lets go September, you rock!

Worm75

09-03-2007, 03:20 PM

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Ok I have a feeling this is one of you guys....pretty funny to be berated for making what I think is a pretty standard call on the flop.

Watching you tilt afterwards was pure gold

Hero (SB): $34.95
BB: $9.80
UTG: $41.50
CO: $22.25
BTN: $13.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.85, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.75, BB folds

Flop: ($1.95) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95

Turn: ($5.85) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5.85, Hero raises to $23.40, CO calls all-in for $13.60
Uncalled bet of $3.95 returned to Hero

River: ($44.75) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $44.75 ($2.20 Rake)

CO had A/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Tens) and LOST (-$22.25)
Hero had 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a full house, Sevens full of Tens) and WON (+$20.30)

BishopsFinger

09-03-2007, 03:22 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Brag: Pendulum playing our uni next month
Beat: Can't buy tickets cos uni site sucks balls and won't let me in or answer my email /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

i may try and go to this
info?

LT22

09-03-2007, 03:28 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Ok need advice. The 1600x1200 screen is coming and I am wondering what setup would be best for grinding 100NL.

FT 9-table, all on the screen. this is like 750 hands/hour 27% RB
UB 6-table, 4on the new screen, 2 on my laptop. This is like 630 hands/hour 30%RB +infinite bonus clearance.

I am thinking that playing 3 less tables at UB and having the inifnite reload boni to actually make more $/hour there but im not sure.

Oh and my life tilt is gone, 3 day weekends with family away from home make wonders.

Holla POKER! and Lets go September, you rock!

[/ QUOTE ]

answer to this is pretty obv

jk1986

09-03-2007, 03:31 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Brag: Pendulum playing our uni next month
Beat: Can't buy tickets cos uni site sucks balls and won't let me in or answer my email /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

i may try and go to this
info?

[/ QUOTE ]

4th October in the union - probably the cooler.. not sure bout price or anything since SU site still sucks

Chomp

09-03-2007, 03:44 PM

Does anyone ever finish a session and ask themselves, "How the hell was that a losing session?".

I've just had one. Bizarre. Got plenty of reasonable cards, played a solid 18/14, no messing around, decent table selection etc., and yet still -$54 for absolutely no good reason I can see. Well bloody frustrating.

mookboi

09-03-2007, 03:47 PM

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $41.20
Hero (BB): $168.05
UTG: $50.80
MP: $71.10
CO: $81.75
BTN: $49.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $2.00, 3 folds, Hero raises to $6.00, MP calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.25) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $8.50, MP calls $8.50

Turn: ($29.25) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $18.25, MP raises all-in to $56.60, Hero calls $38.35

River: ($142.45) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $142.45 ($3 Rake)

MP had T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (three of a kind, Tens) and WON (+$68.35)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Tens) and LOST (-$71.10)

Life Tilt.

Pokerdemic

09-03-2007, 03:52 PM

If you are in the BB and it is open folded to the button who min raises. What range do you call with? I have been spite calling with ATC, but I there are some reverse implied odds with this =)

So what range? ATC?

kaz2107

09-03-2007, 03:55 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone ever finish a session and ask themselves, "How the hell was that a losing session?".

I've just had one. Bizarre. Got plenty of reasonable cards, played a solid 18/14, no messing around, decent table selection etc., and yet still -$54 for absolutely no good reason I can see. Well bloody frustrating.

[/ QUOTE ]cbet better?!?!?!? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

clowntable

09-03-2007, 03:55 PM

[ QUOTE ]
yo ppl, whats up with this lucky 7s thing on FTP? Do i wanna opt in?

[/ QUOTE ]
It's like a free 8 cents or a little more.
Around 30k players, 30 chances to win 77$
1k : 1 to win 77$

Maybe 200:1 if you add in the prizes and the fact that not anyone is going to play.
So 40 cents if you take that.
Now depends if the time of clicking that and waiting for the promo window to load is worth more or less than that for you.

Eric Draven

09-03-2007, 04:07 PM

In a 15 minute interval I've mis-typed a .3 bet as a $3 bet, and a .7 as a $7 bet. One buy-in gone because I'm retarded. Now watch me tilt off another 1-2 buy-ins because of this. I also lost a 170bb stack to a 47/22 fish when my QQ ran into his AA. Not a good day thus far.

LT22

09-03-2007, 04:12 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I also lost a 170bb stack to a 47/22 fish when my QQ ran into his AA. Not a good day thus far.

[/ QUOTE ]

this isn't good against any opponent

netstorm

09-03-2007, 04:22 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I also lost a 170bb stack to a 47/22 fish when my QQ ran into his AA. Not a good day thus far.

[/ QUOTE ]

this isn't good against any opponent

[/ QUOTE ]

leveling, right ?

Dexytp22

09-03-2007, 04:24 PM

Yeah, there goes 3 buyins in 300ish hands at NL50. Awesome, never had a shortstack tilt me til today. Beat KK with a8 and aj allin preflop and I'm just meh. Now, gotta grind it back.

Gelford

09-03-2007, 04:24 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I also lost a 170bb stack to a 47/22 fish when my QQ ran into his AA. Not a good day thus far.

[/ QUOTE ]

this isn't good against any opponent

[/ QUOTE ]

leveling, right ?

[/ QUOTE ]

No no no ... haven't you heard, small hand small pot .... and besides, his spr management was awful to boot /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chomp

09-03-2007, 04:33 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone ever finish a session and ask themselves, "How the hell was that a losing session?".

I've just had one. Bizarre. Got plenty of reasonable cards, played a solid 18/14, no messing around, decent table selection etc., and yet still -$54 for absolutely no good reason I can see. Well bloody frustrating.

[/ QUOTE ]cbet better?!?!?!? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Kaz, an excellent suggestion. I'll give it a go and report back.

vulturesrow

09-03-2007, 04:36 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone ever finish a session and ask themselves, "How the hell was that a losing session?".

I've just had one. Bizarre. Got plenty of reasonable cards, played a solid 18/14, no messing around, decent table selection etc., and yet still -$54 for absolutely no good reason I can see. Well bloody frustrating.

[/ QUOTE ]cbet better?!?!?!? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Kaz, an excellent suggestion. I'll give it a go and report back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Id also suggest flopping the stone cold nuts more often /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Eric Draven

09-03-2007, 04:40 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I also lost a 170bb stack to a 47/22 fish when my QQ ran into his AA. Not a good day thus far.

[/ QUOTE ]

this isn't good against any opponent

[/ QUOTE ]

You're probably right. But the guy was horrible, he had shown down complete BS after calling 3-bets, and I didn't give him any respect. I raised, he re-raised, I 4-bet, he called. Flop is rags, I bet the flop, he re-raised all in, and I called. I really need to review all my HH tonight.

Chomp

09-03-2007, 04:44 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone ever finish a session and ask themselves, "How the hell was that a losing session?".

I've just had one. Bizarre. Got plenty of reasonable cards, played a solid 18/14, no messing around, decent table selection etc., and yet still -$54 for absolutely no good reason I can see. Well bloody frustrating.

[/ QUOTE ]cbet better?!?!?!? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Kaz, an excellent suggestion. I'll give it a go and report back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Id also suggest flopping the stone cold nuts more often /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Sticky please.

Gelford

09-03-2007, 04:44 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I also lost a 170bb stack to a 47/22 fish when my QQ ran into his AA. Not a good day thus far.

[/ QUOTE ]

this isn't good against any opponent

[/ QUOTE ]

You're probably right. But the guy was horrible, he had shown down complete BS after calling 3-bets, and I didn't give him any respect. I raised, he re-raised, I 4-bet, he called. Flop is rags, I bet the flop, he re-raised all in, and I called. I really need to review all my HH tonight.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds good to me /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gelford

09-03-2007, 05:11 PM

Beat: No poker today due to diarrhea cha cha cha

ajmargarine

09-03-2007, 05:14 PM

Thanks for sharing gelford.

vulturesrow

09-03-2007, 05:14 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone ever finish a session and ask themselves, "How the hell was that a losing session?".

I've just had one. Bizarre. Got plenty of reasonable cards, played a solid 18/14, no messing around, decent table selection etc., and yet still -$54 for absolutely no good reason I can see. Well bloody frustrating.

[/ QUOTE ]cbet better?!?!?!? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Kaz, an excellent suggestion. I'll give it a go and report back.

[/ QUOTE ]

Id also suggest flopping the stone cold nuts more often /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Sticky please.

[/ QUOTE ]

Consider that my second poobah post of the week /images/graemlins/smile.gif

LT22

09-03-2007, 05:14 PM

I think 4-betting QQ 170bb deep is/was the problem

MrWooster

09-03-2007, 05:23 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Beat: No poker today due to diarrhea cha cha cha

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh please! There is always someone to lower the standard /images/graemlins/wink.gif

MrWooster

09-03-2007, 05:25 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I think 4-betting QQ 170bb deep is/was the problem

[/ QUOTE ]

Just been having a think about this.... Is a 4-bet against a 47/22 really that bad - surly he is doing this with TT+ AJ+?

BishopsFinger

09-03-2007, 05:32 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I think 4-betting QQ 170bb deep is/was the problem

[/ QUOTE ]

Just been having a think about this.... Is a 4-bet against a 47/22 really that bad - surly he is doing this with TT+ AJ+ 42o?

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

ShitzuJujitsu

09-03-2007, 05:51 PM

Alrighty chaps. Being a bit of a tard, i've only just worked out how to get round my fort knox style firewall/virus thingy to allow the cookies on here! Now i can, i'll be sure to chips in with some threads on me butchering some hands. In the meantime, Septembers started well - why dont more of you play at iPoker?

Read on this guy after about 5 hands: Will call down with any part of board

Titan Poker 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

saw flop | saw showdown

Button Button ($36.12)
SB ($51.25)
BB ($49.25)
UTG Hero ($62.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif A /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero raises to 2, Button calls 2, 2 folds.

Flop (4.75) J /images/graemlins/spade.gif K /images/graemlins/heart.gif 2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Hero bets 4.75, Button calls 4.75.

Turn (14.25) K /images/graemlins/club.gif
Hero bets 8, Button calls 8.

River (30.25) 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Hero bets 30.25, Button moves all-in for 21.37

Hero shows K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif A /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Button shows J /images/graemlins/club.gif 9 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Hero wins 81.87 with Three of a kind, King's

Micro Donk

09-03-2007, 05:54 PM

i bet more on the turn, closer to pot if he really calls down with any piece, but from the looks of it, you was getting it AI by the riv anyway, so its fine

and we prob cant play ipoker cause it doesnt take americans.

im really considering moving to canada so i can play on non american sites...2 years behind indeed...

wingchunflush

09-03-2007, 05:55 PM

beat: had to wait tables today on labor day. Talk about a whipping. Holidays are crazy because you can never tell if it will be busy. I sold like $450 for a lunch that is insane and didnt even make 10%. All the white trash as out splurging at a crappy casual dining restaurant. Busted my ass for 5 hours to make $40 bucks, I can make that playing $2nl for the same amount of time.

Gelford

09-03-2007, 06:04 PM

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beat: had to wait tables today on labor day. Talk about a whipping. Holidays are crazy because you can never tell if it will be busy. I sold like $450 for a lunch that is insane and didnt even make 10%. All the white trash as out splurging at a crappy casual dining restaurant. Busted my ass for 5 hours to make $40 bucks, I can make that playing $2nl for the same amount of time.

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LOL jobaments /images/graemlins/smile.gif (oh wait .... I might actually end up announcing that I have a job tomorrow /images/graemlins/frown.gif )

wingchunflush

09-03-2007, 06:08 PM

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beat: had to wait tables today on labor day. Talk about a whipping. Holidays are crazy because you can never tell if it will be busy. I sold like $450 for a lunch that is insane and didnt even make 10%. All the white trash as out splurging at a crappy casual dining restaurant. Busted my ass for 5 hours to make $40 bucks, I can make that playing $2nl for the same amount of time.

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LOL jobaments /images/graemlins/smile.gif (oh wait .... I might actually end up announcing that I have a job tomorrow /images/graemlins/frown.gif )

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Your not waiting tables though that makes the difference, this isnt even fine dining the plates top at about $12 IT SUCKSSSSSSS

vulturesrow

09-03-2007, 06:08 PM

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Beat: No poker today due to diarrhea cha cha cha

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Oh please! There is always someone to lower the standard /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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When youre sliding in to first and youre feeling something burst...

Micro Donk

09-03-2007, 06:10 PM

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Beat: No poker today due to diarrhea cha cha cha

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Oh please! There is always someone to lower the standard /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

When youre sliding in to first and youre feeling something burst...

[/ QUOTE ]

when youre ridin in your chevy and youre feelin somethin heavy...

Worm75

09-03-2007, 06:26 PM

This was sexy

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $24.75
BB: $22.35
UTG: $19.20
CO: $34.25
Hero (BTN): $29.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, SB raises to $1.75, BB folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.75) T/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB bets $3.25, Hero raises to $13.50, SB raises all-in to $23.00, Hero calls $9.50

Turn: ($49.75) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($49.75) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $49.75 ($2.45 Rake)

SB had A/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (two pair, Queens and Fours) and LOST (-$24.75)
Hero had T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Queens and Tens) and WON (+$22.55)

LT22

09-03-2007, 06:31 PM

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I think 4-betting QQ 170bb deep is/was the problem

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Just been having a think about this.... Is a 4-bet against a 47/22 really that bad - surly he is doing this with TT+ AJ+ 42o?

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FYP

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so that means we should allow him to play optimally? 170bbs is time for some pot control with QQ. play the pokerz postflop

tehDiceman

09-03-2007, 06:39 PM

lol donkaments.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB (t1365)
UTG (t1325)
UTG+1 (t3800)
MP1 (t4200)
MP2 (t1275)
MP3 (t2160)
CO (t7417)
Hero (t6015)
SB (t1710)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t150, 4 folds, Hero raises to t400, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t250.

Flop: (t875) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t3400 (All-In), Hero calls t3400.

Turn: (t7675) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t7675) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t7675

Results below:
UTG+1 has 4s Qc (high card, ace).
Hero has Jc 6d (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins t7675.

C4LL4W4Y

09-03-2007, 06:41 PM

weird hand diceman, i hope you had some sick reads or else that's spew city.

vixticator

09-03-2007, 06:41 PM

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[so that means we should allow him to play optimally? 170bbs is time for some pot control with QQ. play the pokerz postflop

[/ QUOTE ]If you have some tard willing to call with 66+, AQ+, or looser, it doesn't matter. Get as much in preflop as possible.

Gelford

09-03-2007, 06:46 PM

LT22 ... You've been reading too much Sklansky /images/graemlins/smile.gif

tehDiceman

09-03-2007, 07:05 PM

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weird hand diceman, i hope you had some sick reads or else that's spew city.

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he had raised practically every hand that i'd seen. different sizes each time as well. was waiting to 3bet him and of course he calls. i figure with the way he was betting constantly on almost all streets of all the hands i've seen, he was pushing ATC.

i was 6th in the US freeroll on stars but went calling station since my table has 3 people sitting in and spewed 5k chips. 55th place right now.

the guy is starting to piss me off now. he calls down with every little marginal hand he makes and i've lost another 4k chips.

Kimo White Devil

09-03-2007, 07:11 PM

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I also lost a 170bb stack to a 47/22 fish when my QQ ran into his AA. Not a good day thus far.

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this isn't good against any opponent

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You're probably right. But the guy was horrible, he had shown down complete BS after calling 3-bets, and I didn't give him any respect. I raised, he re-raised, I 4-bet, he called. Flop is rags, I bet the flop, he re-raised all in, and I called. I really need to review all my HH tonight.

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Sounds good to me /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I play it the same too and even before Gelford's teaching. Maybe its a leak, but I never give respect to opp with those crazy stats

BishopsFinger

09-03-2007, 07:13 PM

my first month at NL50 starts well:

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1098499_13rdsept.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

another $40 and im rolled for NL100 - ship it!!

vixticator

09-03-2007, 07:16 PM

Ugh I'm about to projectile vomit. Lost two pots within four hands, stacked once and nearly twice. First hand I flop straight beat by flush, second flop top set AA and lose to flush. Same opponent, wtf.

tehDiceman

09-03-2007, 07:22 PM

holy crap check this out. stars = not rigged. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t315)
MP2 (t425)
MP3 (t215)
CO (t8350)
Button (t2825)
SB (t4750)
BB (t1395)
Hero (t14842)
UTG+1 (t710)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero raises to t450, 5 folds, Button calls t450, 2 folds.

Flop: (t1125) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t300, Hero calls t300.

Turn: (t1725) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (t1725) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t3600, Button calls t2075 (All-In).

Final Pot: t5875

Results below:
Hero has Ad Kd (straight flush, ace high).
Button has Js Kc (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins t7400.

Gelford

09-03-2007, 07:23 PM

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Ugh I'm about to projectile vomit. Lost two pots within four hands, stacked once and nearly twice. First hand I flop straight beat by flush, second flop top set AA and lose to flush. Same opponent, wtf.

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Booo .... Huuu ... Huuuu ... did someone take your lollipop ???

vixticator

09-03-2007, 07:23 PM

This made me feel better, diff table:

ROFL @ KQ calling.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($3.75)
BB ($6.27)
UTG ($12.10)
MP ($17.70)
Hero ($11.14)
Button ($11.28)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, Button raises to $0.45, 2 folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $11.14, Button calls $10.69.

Flop: ($22.40) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Turn: ($22.40) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

River: ($22.40) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $22.40

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ad Ah (flush, ace high).
Button has Qs Kd (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins $22.40.

tehDiceman

09-03-2007, 07:26 PM

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This made me feel better, diff table:

ROFL @ KQ calling.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($3.75)
BB ($6.27)
UTG ($12.10)
MP ($17.70)
Hero ($11.14)
Button ($11.28)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, Button raises to $0.45, 2 folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $11.14, Button calls $10.69.

Flop: ($22.40) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Turn: ($22.40) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

River: ($22.40) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $22.40

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ad Ah (flush, ace high).
Button has Qs Kd (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins $22.40. 

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if i was villian i dont call in that spot. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Ikaika

09-03-2007, 07:48 PM

Dropped down to 10nl(/wrists) for a short session today to try and get some confidence back. Made some really good plays and overall solid poker. +3 buyins in 300 hands. Lets hope this continues. I'd like to grind back ~100 at 10nl before jumping back up to 25nl to make sure I'm playing the way I should.

hennnerz

09-03-2007, 08:07 PM

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my first month at NL50 starts well:

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1098499_13rdsept.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com)

another $40 and im rolled for NL100 - ship it!!

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NH Bro. Good job.

LT22

09-03-2007, 08:13 PM

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LT22 ... You've been sweating ur friends that play MSNL/HSNL too much and actually listening to them instead of thinking everyone but me is a retard at the tables /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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meleader2

09-03-2007, 09:27 PM

how many hands do you use on a villain, typically, before you place a real tag on someone whether they're winning or losing.

your own read is at least 50k hands before you know how you're doing, so how can you peg a villain to be winning or losing, if you've been datamining (key phrase cuz u haven't been watching them) if you don't have a certain # of hands on them?

i like 500 hands to be a good indicator. in the past i've used PT to click on the summary tab to see how bad a certain level is based on the winning/losing % of players at the stake i was datamining but i really feel this is flawed.

after putting a filter of 500 hands on i have the winning players to be greater than the losing players (only by 10% or so).

clearly this can not be a good thing, whether it is partly due to the UIGEA or not is not of any concern to me. the bottom line is these long term players are winning and not losing.

what # of hands do you usually need to consider someone a losing player, and do u end up chasing them around??? i'd like to hear from regulars at the 25/50nl stake.

for me i've only found 1 longterm losing player at 50nl on FTP constantly playing. JIMMY1969. horrible player.

PJo336

09-03-2007, 09:54 PM

anyone can win over 500 hands, i dont think thats a great indicator

i must be misunderstanding

C4LL4W4Y

09-03-2007, 10:03 PM

i mean, i just try to look for exploitable leaks. sometimes stats will tell you what they are, sometimes they won't. the best way to figure out if someone is a winner or loser is to watch their play - a few showdowns will give you information that 1000's of datamined hands can miss.

Mr_Pathetic

09-03-2007, 10:11 PM

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....a few showdowns will give you information that 1000's of datamined hands can miss.

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This is exactly why I never play more then 2-3 tables so I can see every hand shown down whether I in pot or not.

C4LL4W4Y

09-03-2007, 10:22 PM

i started to do that with mtt's, playing only 2 tables - and my results got a lot better. cash is diff though, i think there are enough guys playing exploitably enough to multitable effectively.

PJo336

09-03-2007, 10:23 PM

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i started to do that with mtt's, playing only 2 tables - and my results got a lot better. cash is diff though, i think there are enough guys playing exploitably enough to multitable effectively.

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yeh not to mention everyone sucks!!

whyzze

09-03-2007, 10:37 PM

this is how ive ran the past month...theres much worse...those are just the best from my most recent session...I am beginning to despise poker /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $17.45
BB: $29.00
UTG: $37.90
Hero (MP): $78.40
CO: $53.85
BTN: $68.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG raises to $1.00, Hero raises to $6.00, 4 folds, UTG raises to $11.00, Hero raises all-in to $78.40, UTG calls all-in for $26.90
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Flop: ($76.55) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Turn: ($76.55) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($76.55) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $76.55 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (a flush, King high) and WON (+$35.65)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$37.90)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $71.85
Hero (BB): $75.60
UTG: $25.75
CO: $37.45
BTN: $50.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO raises to $1.00, BTN folds, SB raises to $3.00, Hero calls $2.50, CO calls $2.00

Flop: ($9) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
SB bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00, CO calls $7.00

Turn: ($30) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
SB bets $28.00, Hero raises all-in to $65.60, CO calls all-in for $27.45, SB calls all-in for $33.85
Uncalled bet of $3.75 returned to Hero
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to SB

River: ($181.15) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $181.15 ($3 Rake)

CO had 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$71.90)
SB had A/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$71.85)
Hero had J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Jacks) and LOST (-$3.05)