Pocket Kings (a true love and hate relationship)

[rockstar626]

Had been 4 tabling about 20 minutes and seen the villain make some loose plays.
Until recently I have had the philosophy of moving AI PF instead of getting into a situation like this:
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $10.90
hero: $9.35
CO: $10.50
Button: $10
SB: $8.05
BB: $24.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $0.45</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.4, 4 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises all-in $8.9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $17.7</font>.
Uncalled bets: $8.8 returned to BB.

Turn: K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($28.1, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.3, Sidepot 1: $8.8)


River: 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($28.1, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.3, Sidepot 1: $8.8)


Results:
Final pot: $28.1

AI PF would have probably still resulted in a call, what do you think???

[Sense1ess]

Are you suggesting open pushing PF?? Yeah, that's not a good play.

Your raise on the flop is also a big overbet.

[ryang]

bb def flopped a set here, why are you overbetting?

[rockstar626]

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Are you suggesting open pushing PF?? Yeah, that's not a good play.

Your raise on the flop is also a big overbet.

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The overbet was a bit ridiculous, I know, are you suggesting re-raising, and then folding to a bigger re-raise, or just making the call to the re-raise to see the turn?

[whyzze]

I can tell you get upset when your Aces or Kings lose and thats why you are playing it this way...but you are losing tons of value if you take lines like you have suggested and against alot of players you are allowing them to play perfectly. There are very few times where you should bet significantly more than the pot.

[Quester]

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The overbet was a bit ridiculous, I know, are you suggesting re-raising, and then folding to a bigger re-raise, or just making the call to the re-raise to see the turn?

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Raise to like $1.70, play poker if 4-bet or called.

Open shoving preflop is a good way to lose money in the long term.

[mookboi]

Where was your option to go in preflop? Instead of raising standardly? That's crazy talk.

3bet flop. Like to 1.4.

[rockstar626]

Ok, So standard raise PreFlop, 4-bet after the flop...... Got it. I already realize that the overbet was really stupid, I think I was tilting a little(See my other post on this board about AA and facing reraise from another player. I think I played that the same way we agree here.

The sick part about this hand, is I would have pushed the turn anyway, still to lose to quads on the river:(