Eaglesfan1
08-31-2007, 02:45 PM
From Cardplayer.com
New Tax Law Takes Bite Out of Tournament Winnings
Law Will Require Casinos to Take 25 Percent of $5,000 or More
A new tax code has been released that spells out just how much money the government will take from those who are lucky enough to cash for $5,000 or more in poker tournaments.
Starting March 4, 2008, casinos and card rooms are suppose to start withholding 25 percent of any poker tournament winnings $5,000 or more. This will particularly affect the poker hobbyists who go deep in tournaments with buy-ins that range from $100 to $550, and of course those who make their living humping the tournament poker trail.
Language in the new tax code pointed to a Tax Court ruling that took place earlier this year. The ruling held that tournament poker is not a skillful competition and should be considered a gambling activity, at least for the purposes of taxation.
The law requires casinos and card rooms to withhold and report the winnings from a player if its $5,000 or more in a tax year. The code doesn't not address winnings from online poker sites or from casinos off U.S. soil.
Here’s an example of how much money the government will be making off poker tournaments after March 4, 2008. If the law was in effect earlier this month, the top seven finishers of the $500 event that took place Aug. 7, at the Legends of Poker would have paid a total of $40,221 in taxes.
The runner-up of this tournament, which attracted a healthy 460 entrants, would have taken home $27,972 after taxes ($37,295 before). The winner received $74,585. If the law was in place, that amount would’ve been $18,646 less.
The notice that was released to accounting firms this week follows:
Background. Under Code Sec. 3402(q)(3)(C)(i), payors must withhold 25% on proceeds of more than $5,000 from a sweepstakes, wagering pool or lottery (other than a state-conducted lottery, covered by another withholding rule). Proceeds from a wager are determined by reducing the amount received by the amount of the wager. (Code Sec. 3402(q)(4)(A))
Facts. A poker tournament sponsor charges an entry fee and a buy-in fee for each participant. In exchange for paying the buy-in fee, a participant receives a set of poker chips with a nominal face value for use in the specific poker tournament. The sponsor pays amounts, which exceed a participant's fees by $5,000, to a certain number of tournament winner(s), out of a pool made up of all the participants' fees.
Poker tournament sponsors must withhold. Rev Proc 2007-57, which is effective for payments made on or after Mar. 4, 2008, says poker tournament sponsors (including casinos) paying amounts to winners in a manner substantially similar to the facts above, must under Code Sec. 3403(q) withhold and report on payments of more than $5,000 made to a winning payee in a tax year. They must furnish a copy of the information return to IRS on or before Feb. 28 (Mar. 31 if filed electronically) of the calendar year following the calendar year in which the payment is made. Rev Proc 2007-57 cites legislative history for the proposition that the term "wagering pool" includes all pari-mutuel betting pools, including on- and off-track racing pools, and similar types of betting pools. It also cites a non-tax case (U.S. v. Berent, (CA 9 1975) 523 F.2d 1360, 1361), holding that in common usage "pool" means "a particular gambling practice, an arrangement whereby all bets constitute a common fund to be taken by the winner or winners."
IRS said it won't assert any liability for additional tax or additions to tax for violations of any withholding obligation relating to amounts paid to winners of poker tournaments under Code Sec. 3402, as long as the poker tournament sponsor meets all of the requirements for information reporting under Code Sec. 3402(q) and its regs.
RIA observation: Earlier this year, the Tax Court held that tournament poker is a wagering activity for purposes of the Code Sec. 165(d) limit on gambling losses. See Federal Taxes Weekly Alert 03/01/2007.
This seems like a bunch of crap to me that will wreak havoc with tournaments pros and their tax returns.
"The ruling held that tournament poker is not a skillful competition and should be considered a gambling activity, at least for the purposes of taxation."
Surely we can fight this right?
New Tax Law Takes Bite Out of Tournament Winnings
Law Will Require Casinos to Take 25 Percent of $5,000 or More
A new tax code has been released that spells out just how much money the government will take from those who are lucky enough to cash for $5,000 or more in poker tournaments.
Starting March 4, 2008, casinos and card rooms are suppose to start withholding 25 percent of any poker tournament winnings $5,000 or more. This will particularly affect the poker hobbyists who go deep in tournaments with buy-ins that range from $100 to $550, and of course those who make their living humping the tournament poker trail.
Language in the new tax code pointed to a Tax Court ruling that took place earlier this year. The ruling held that tournament poker is not a skillful competition and should be considered a gambling activity, at least for the purposes of taxation.
The law requires casinos and card rooms to withhold and report the winnings from a player if its $5,000 or more in a tax year. The code doesn't not address winnings from online poker sites or from casinos off U.S. soil.
Here’s an example of how much money the government will be making off poker tournaments after March 4, 2008. If the law was in effect earlier this month, the top seven finishers of the $500 event that took place Aug. 7, at the Legends of Poker would have paid a total of $40,221 in taxes.
The runner-up of this tournament, which attracted a healthy 460 entrants, would have taken home $27,972 after taxes ($37,295 before). The winner received $74,585. If the law was in place, that amount would’ve been $18,646 less.
The notice that was released to accounting firms this week follows:
Background. Under Code Sec. 3402(q)(3)(C)(i), payors must withhold 25% on proceeds of more than $5,000 from a sweepstakes, wagering pool or lottery (other than a state-conducted lottery, covered by another withholding rule). Proceeds from a wager are determined by reducing the amount received by the amount of the wager. (Code Sec. 3402(q)(4)(A))
Facts. A poker tournament sponsor charges an entry fee and a buy-in fee for each participant. In exchange for paying the buy-in fee, a participant receives a set of poker chips with a nominal face value for use in the specific poker tournament. The sponsor pays amounts, which exceed a participant's fees by $5,000, to a certain number of tournament winner(s), out of a pool made up of all the participants' fees.
Poker tournament sponsors must withhold. Rev Proc 2007-57, which is effective for payments made on or after Mar. 4, 2008, says poker tournament sponsors (including casinos) paying amounts to winners in a manner substantially similar to the facts above, must under Code Sec. 3403(q) withhold and report on payments of more than $5,000 made to a winning payee in a tax year. They must furnish a copy of the information return to IRS on or before Feb. 28 (Mar. 31 if filed electronically) of the calendar year following the calendar year in which the payment is made. Rev Proc 2007-57 cites legislative history for the proposition that the term "wagering pool" includes all pari-mutuel betting pools, including on- and off-track racing pools, and similar types of betting pools. It also cites a non-tax case (U.S. v. Berent, (CA 9 1975) 523 F.2d 1360, 1361), holding that in common usage "pool" means "a particular gambling practice, an arrangement whereby all bets constitute a common fund to be taken by the winner or winners."
IRS said it won't assert any liability for additional tax or additions to tax for violations of any withholding obligation relating to amounts paid to winners of poker tournaments under Code Sec. 3402, as long as the poker tournament sponsor meets all of the requirements for information reporting under Code Sec. 3402(q) and its regs.
RIA observation: Earlier this year, the Tax Court held that tournament poker is a wagering activity for purposes of the Code Sec. 165(d) limit on gambling losses. See Federal Taxes Weekly Alert 03/01/2007.
This seems like a bunch of crap to me that will wreak havoc with tournaments pros and their tax returns.
"The ruling held that tournament poker is not a skillful competition and should be considered a gambling activity, at least for the purposes of taxation."
Surely we can fight this right?