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n4rf
08-31-2007, 12:44 PM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($9.35)
Hero ($9.55)
SB ($16.35)
BB ($9.90)
UTG ($6.45)
MP ($11.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $1.20, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2.6</font>, Hero calls $0.90, UTG calls $0.90.

Flop: ($7.15) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $4.25 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8.5</font>, Hero folds.

Turn: ($15.65) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($15.65) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $11.40
It was a pretty tight laydown but they guy played em as if they were Aces. I didn't have any reads on players since I just sat down. Would this have been a very easy call for anyone?
gcaash
08-31-2007, 12:49 PM
i think u gotta shove this PF
youngKR
08-31-2007, 12:51 PM
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i think u gotta shove this PF

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At Microstakes, don't give too many people credit for big hands. Don't always assume people have aces. There are all sorts of donks out there who overplay AQ, AK, QQ etc. etc.

Shoving here will be a good play a lot of times at these stakes.
CmnDwnWrkn
08-31-2007, 12:55 PM
Yes, go all-in preflop. KK has such a huge equity advantage preflop, it is good to get as much money possible in as early as possible. You also want to cut down on the number of opponents, because the value of KK goes down in a multiway pot.

Don't be scared of AA when you have KK. Occassionally your opponent will show aces when you have kings, but the odds are against it.
n4rf
08-31-2007, 01:00 PM
Well turns out they were holding 63os and AQos. Reason that I folded it was because I HAVE seen a lot of AA vs KK scenarios. But yes, I can't always assume that esp at the lower stakes.
CmnDwnWrkn
08-31-2007, 01:04 PM
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Well turns out they were holding 63os and AQos. Reason that I folded it was because I HAVE seen a lot of AA vs KK scenarios. But yes, I can't always assume that esp at the lower stakes.

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Those are the easiest to remember, but you've probably also seen a lot of KK vs. AK, KK vs. QQ, and KK vs. JJ scenarios too, no?
n4rf
08-31-2007, 01:21 PM
Of course, but he played his cards so aggresively and without any stats on the opponent I didn't know if I shoulda called.
KCrow
08-31-2007, 01:36 PM
Shove preflop. It's only 100bb and it's likely he'll call you up with JJ+, AK maybe even AQs.

As played shove the flop.
fxwz
08-31-2007, 01:40 PM
I push preflop.
Sense1ess
08-31-2007, 04:05 PM
You have to re-raise PF, especially since you're up against more than 1 player. The only size raise that makes sense is a push.
rahenyshamrock
08-31-2007, 04:24 PM
Im never laying down KK preflop esp at those stakes, you will often see players show up with anything from 10s to AK. If he happens to have Aces its a bit of a cooler but most of the time he wont, hey and if he does how many times have we seen AA getting cracked by a underpair preflop.