NL25, LOL @ flop!

[pacman2k7]

no reads on these guys jsut sat down to this table,

Call or raise? I think my Ace is alive and has a nut flush draw so its close..

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $14.93
BB: $18.44
UTG: $74.84
MP: $14.36
CO: $16.42
Hero (BTN): $24.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.50</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.75</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.00, MP calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.85) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $11.86</font>, Hero ???

[jmgambler]

Oh Man,

I am never 100% here, for me this comes down to "mood" (sad I know) My real problem is UTG? what's he gonna do? and Cold calling PF THEN leads? what QQ? Ugh........... *coin flip*

[Lego05]

It's a fold in my book. If that were it right now you're getting 2 to 1 and it's a call, but UTG's behind you and he came out leading the flop....I'd just throw it away.

[shark_fishin]

i think its a fold, youv only comited $2.5 and are getting bad odds to draw to a flush(i dont think your overs are good here)
its really nice that you have possition in this hand /images/graemlins/smile.gif

btw, i thought you need 3:1 to draw to a flush not 2:1. are you factoring in the times our overcards are good to think 2:1 is a good call lego?

[Lego05]

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btw, i thought you need 3:1 to draw to a flush, we havent commited very much here.

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You need two to 1 if there's two cards coming. 4 to 1 if there's 1 card coming. Neither of those count implied odds or possible redraws for villians.

[pacman2k7]

but the UTG just cold call pre and then bets weak on flop, I cant put him on a strong hand..

[blackice781]

hero instacalls.

[Kasane]

Hero pushes -- he's getting 2 to 1 on his call right now, and that's about 0EV for the worst case scenario - a set (okay, maaaaybe not the worst KcJc or ATCcc is mildly possible). I don't think we want UTG in there cheap with anything, getting like 5-1 if we just call. We'd be pot committed to a push anyway.

We may only have like 33-40% equity on average, but that's fine.

[mookboi]

lol minbettaments.

I second the instacall.

[mookboi]

I disagree with shoving, I want UTG in there.

[Spanky1974]

Gambooooooool! (I like a call)

[pacman2k7]

Same thought..

[Harry Fong]

I agree its a call for me. You never know calling the raise cold may just convince UTG to lay it down also a reraise all in cuts down any implied odds you have for your draw.