I have trouble playing KQo OOP

[Spurious]

Standard guy, playing not too many but quite some hands. VPIP around 32% /images/graemlins/wink.gif


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SB ($4)
Hero ($11.55)
UTG ($8.85)
MP ($10.60)
CO ($11.65)
Button ($11.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero..?

[Lego05]

Pre-flop raise? Attempt to steal? (Yes I know this isn't actually a steal but it gives an idea of positional awareness and if he'll be raising significantly more often in LP.)


Anyway fold would be standard. Against the right villian a 3bet would be good. I personally would never call here.

[amplify]

then don't

[checktheriver]

I fold a large percentage of the time here, unless Villain is very fishy.

[jmgambler]

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then don't

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Hahahah .... Yea avoid the headache

[Gelford]

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then don't

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[mookboi]

I fold all day.
I fold KQs probably too vs competent villain.

[maciczka]

fold it and wait till YOu have at at LP ; )

[Spanky1974]

Calling and 3betting are pretty marginal, but against the right villains can be OK. Much easier to fold than playing an easily dominated hand against decent players.

[Sense1ess]

Fold should be the standard here. As others have noted, raising is an option in unusual circumstances.

[Harry Fong]

I agree you do not want to play this OOP.

Though what would CO's PFR% be in order to make this a call?

[Lego05]

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I agree you do not want to play this OOP.

Though what would CO's PFR% be in order to make this a call?

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There is IMO no number to make this a call. His #'s make this either a fold or a raise.

[stevematador]

Best option is to fold and wait for a better spot. I know others will not agree, but calling here and firing on the flop is another less aggressive option to re raising PF. If the guy is a table bully, I'll sometimes smooth call PF and then lead out on the flop to neutralize the bully and keep him away from my BB's. If you have nothing but air after firing on the flop and he raises, you lay it down and move on, but many times this move will take it down if he's planning on c-betting with air.

[Worm75]

If you are uncomfortable playing OOP, fold the hand, but do any of you guys realize what a a VPIP of 32% is raising in the CO??

Especially if the Button is tight, and he feels he can steal the Button a good % of the time. For me this is a 3-bet here, vs this style villain roughly 80% of the time vs Villain with a VPIP of 32%. Assuming this is standard uNL villain who runs like 32/15

Agree with Lego, that there is no excuse for calling w/this hand OOP, that is just plain horrible. but am really surprised that most of you answer fold as default here....pretty nitty.

Note: there is probably nothing wrong w/folding here as a default line, if villain is decent Postflop, and we are uncomfortably playing OOP when we don't hit. But we are pretty far ahead of a CO raiser's range with this hand.

[Ze_Gnome]

I think 3-Bet KQo at NL10 is a little bit overaggressive. You have to be sure about Villain's stats and know how to play reraised pots OOP to do that.

[monkeymaps]

32% vpip doesnt say anything about his preflop raising range.

fold&gt;raise&gt;call IMO

[Waingro]

I don´t really see why we would 3bet, a 32 VPIP isn´t necessarely stupid or spewy. I think if we 3bet pf and hit tpgk and get action on the flop we probably have to fold. So why are we creating a big pot pf that we don´t really want? I like a 3bet more with J4o. Unless villain is stupid and spewy of course and we are happy to get it in on the flop with tpgk.

Also, we are really not interested in his VPIP here we want to know his pfr % for obvious reasons.