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Ace0fSpades
08-29-2007, 04:30 PM
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.50
BB: $47.50
Hero (UTG): $82.80
MP: $47.80
CO: $50.75
BTN: $75.20

Reads: <font color="blue">No read, though villain seems pretty standard and a little aggro</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.00, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($6.50) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $9.00</font>, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($24.50) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $17.00</font>, Hero?

mookboi
08-29-2007, 05:04 PM
Gah. I had a long response, but deleted it. I really don't know. I guess since we have the Q diamonds, we can maybe make this call. A read would be really helpful here. But I really hate calling the minraise on flop. I don't like either of the other options, but I think I view calling as the worst. Usually I'll just come over the top, because I'm in love with my overpair and have the backdoor flush draw.

Turn card completes a ton of draws. I'm torn between folding and shoving.

Ramana
08-29-2007, 06:14 PM
This is pretty much a flip if you think that he can do this with JJ TT.

Board: 9d 5h 8d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.120% 46.92% 02.20% 640 30.00 { QdQs }
Hand 1: 50.880% 48.68% 02.20% 664 30.00 { JJ-88, 55, AdTd, KdJd, JdTd, Td7d, 98s, 76s }


if not, you're in trouble

Board: 9d 5h 8d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 22.727% 20.22% 02.51% 169 21.00 { QdQs }
Hand 1: 77.273% 74.76% 02.51% 625 21.00 { 99-88, 55, AdTd, KdJd, JdTd, Td7d, 98s, 76s }

I think that's basically what it comes down to. Without a good read, I tend towards folding to be honest, because the flop was multiway and SB has something he's willing to felt.

Lego05
08-30-2007, 12:42 AM
I'm thinkin fold.

Wondercall
08-30-2007, 02:18 AM
Why did you just call his min-raise?

orange
08-30-2007, 02:38 AM
consider shoving flop.

Spanky1974
08-30-2007, 03:57 AM
I don't think you are ahead often enough to call turn bet. If you are, you will get his money soon. What was your plan when you called the flop raise?

Rounder101
08-30-2007, 04:15 AM
easy fold. Do not shove the flop, you will let him play perfectly, and most of the time youd rather be a huge dog or slightly ahead.
This is one situation, in which I think min3betting the flop is the best play, just as a sort of "probe raise". If he shoves we have an easy fold, if he calls, we reevaluate with a much better read the turn.
I got to say I absolutely hate minbets, but this time it seems to be the best line.

PleasureGuy69
08-30-2007, 04:16 AM
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easy fold. Do not shove the flop, you will let him play perfectly, and most of the time youd rather be a huge dog or slightly ahead.
This is one situation, in which I think min3betting the flop is the best play, just as a sort of "probe raise". If he shoves we have an easy fold, if he calls, we reevaluate with a much better read the turn.
I got to say I absolutely hate minbets, but this time it seems to be the best line.

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That's about as good as open folding

Nemesis69
08-30-2007, 07:14 AM
I tought about shoving the flop. So many draws out there.

As played I fold.