TP2K Pooosh NL $50 6m

[AZplaya]

Both villians are unknown and I've been at the table for less than an orbit.. Figure this play is pretty high variance but wtf. Do I have the best hand here enough to make this +EV?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $74.40
BB: $72.95
UTG: $49.05
MP: $48.95
CO: $47.00
Hero (BTN): $55.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, SB calls $2.00, BB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($9) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $9.00</font>, UTG calls $9.00, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $53.25</font>

[ajmargarine]

You got a read/feel/sense of BB?

[mattnxtc]

I am just trying to understand why you would want to push? What hands call that you beat?

[Kasane]

Sick spot, but I think I wimp it up and fold. Full psb into 4(!) players with two-tone Ahigh flop out there.

As is, neutral EVwise I think. Which is why I toss it rather than flip for stacks with so little invested.

[orig!naL]

I agree.. my decision might change later on in the session, but first or second orbit, I'm going to lay this one down.

[AZplaya]

AJ: Unfortunatly both villians are complete unknowns though the table as a whole has juicy stats (68% to the flop/ $24 avg/pot)

mattnxtc: Ax/fd/pp who thinks I'm on a draw or bluff. I realize pushing puts me in a spot were I'm usually only getting called by a better hand, but with the size of the pot already, what are my options?

[bluffbetter]

The interesting question here is does a set normally lead for exactly full pot? My thinking is that it doesn't. Usually a set would bet less than full pot here, and would often actually check. But then again if it's a loose table one of them may have 2 pair.

I know sometimes they will bet full pot with a set but I think that a very big percent of the time a set bets less than full pot (even if only a bit less).

[traz]

no idea what BB has, but I think we see draws/ax enough for this to be fine

[mattnxtc]

Ill first start by saying I didnt see the flat call of 9 by the utg. I need to think this out a bit more. As you said, if your called your behind a lot here.

Though really any raise commits you anyways.

[bluffbetter]

Maybe you have to go with the loose table stats, as OP has no individual stats on these players.

[kaz2107]

this is pretty standard for me

[ama0330]

I find it a little concerning that BB has lead for pot into 3 other players. IMO this is thinner than you think

[ciro bonano]

In my experience BB usually has a flush draw but I'm not so sure about UTG. I think the push is slightly +EV and obv high variance.

[Havokquin]

Surely you're running into either a set, two pair or AK more often than not if you get a call. Can't really see AJ or worse calling a push in this situation.

[bored]

I'm pretty sure at least UTG has you beat.

FYI, this is how I play when I'm tilting.

This sucks less when you are HU and have a read.

[DeathbySuckout]

This spot sucks. At first i wanted to say, nice push. But then thinking about it, you have BB, who cold called PF, potting into 3 other players on an A high flop, and then getting a call from UTG, and you're not even closing the betting on the flop. I don't think I wanna risk a stack here because I don't think top pair, ok kicker is good enough.