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orig!naL
08-29-2007, 02:47 PM
no solid reads - villain is 64/0/1 over 14 hands.

even when the A hits on the turn.. I'm really not convinced that I'm ahead. Against a solid player this is such an easy lay down for me, but I really have no idea what this guy calls my flop bet with when there is a flush draw on board. That totally screwed up the whole hand for me and made it really difficult to put him on anything.

On the river I really would have prefered to check it down, but when he bets just under 1/3 of the pot, don't I have to call?

comments on all streets and thoughts on what villain might have as a holding is appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $24.75
BB: $15.05
UTG: $30.70
MP: $34.40
Hero (CO): $25.40
BTN: $27.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Kc.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ac.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.10</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6c.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Td.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7c.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, UTG calls $2.00

Turn: ($6.55) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6c.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Td.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7c.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ah.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $9.00</font>, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($24.55) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6c.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Td.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7c.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ah.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7s.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $7.25</font>....

Peter Harris
08-29-2007, 02:58 PM
i call here. You may have counterfeited A6, you may be beating AJ/AQ or the guy may be a retard with a T who c/r you on the wrong street. You're getting the odds, i say call.

Kasane
08-29-2007, 03:07 PM
Against anyone, solid or not, you can snap call that c/r -- it's a min c/r, which means that you automatically have the odds to draw to your nut hand.

I call the river against brain dead stats like villains.

CmnDwnWrkn
08-29-2007, 03:15 PM
Hard to say exactly what he has. I usually find that a minraise from a donk (especially a min check raise) usually means they have a big hand though. Probably two pair or a set or something. He could just have AQ/AJ though. The call on the turn is definitely good, and I think calling the river is good too - you are getting such good odds.

BTW, if you call and lose, you still get to see his cards which means you get valuable information on how he plays hands from preflop all the way to river.

mattnxtc
08-29-2007, 03:17 PM
You have the villian beat a lot here...easy call.

I sometimes push on the turn too

dmoney
08-29-2007, 03:21 PM
Hes thinking he has a set of 6s. DUHHH

dmoney
08-29-2007, 03:23 PM
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You have the villian beat a lot here...easy call.

I sometimes push on the turn too

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I think you should push here 99.57774997% of the time on the turn.

CyberianBull
08-29-2007, 03:27 PM
Push turn --&gt; puke when he shows 89o

bluffbetter
08-29-2007, 03:39 PM
Yes, of course you should call the river. Why? Well because this player is very, very loose. You played the whole hand fine imo.

The only slight thing you could change is to make it something like $2.20 or $2.40 on the flop because somehow $2 makes the bet look weak to some people.

orig!naL
08-29-2007, 06:25 PM
I think we have enough replies now, so I can post results and everyone can see how they thought.

Villain turned up TT for the boat. I'm not sure if it's a leak, but I really didn't put him on a set when he checked the flop with a flush draw on board.

I didn't push the turn, because I really felt like AT was a strong possibility or some other ridiculous 2 pair. I just didn't think TPTK was going to do it. On the river I really felt I had to call such a small bet.