Top pair, standard?

[neverforgetlol]

My thinking was, since the board was dry, he either has a made hand and/or just cbetting. Since the turn didn't seem to change much, I felt I had to fold there.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $27.90
BB: $75.50
UTG: $19.70
MP: $50.75
CO: $33.30
Hero (BTN): $56.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Qh.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ac.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $2.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7s.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/2c.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Qd.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/4d.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $8.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $19.75 ($0.55 Rake)

[Maunzekater]

Yuck! Why do you call a flop bet when folding to a blank on the turn? You could call/check-call/check-call to showdown, but I would 3bet him right on the flop. Make it ~$12 and reevaluate after the turn card.

[whyherro]

three betting this flop is a pretty terrible idea. this is close to the perfect board for your hand. check call turn and depending on river call a reasonable bet

[bored]

I raise the flop here.

As played, I'd call the turn and the river.

[Kasane]

Don't raise the flop -- I doubt you'll be calling a push w/o a read on villain. It costs about the same to see the turn, and you'll get more value if you're ahead. You don't need to worry about any draws, so that's out.

Game feel is really important for hands like these. It feels a little sick, but I call turn too, and I re-eval river with the intention of folding to most bets. A triple barrel from anything that you beat would be pretty sick on villain's part.

Any info on game flow/villain can make me change the way I play this though.

[ajrees]

I would raise this flop 95% of the time and be happy to take it down right there. Villain could easily have a low-mid pair or AK and I would prefer to take down the pot on the flop then risk a suck-out.

The villain's flop bet just looks like a standard continuation bet, and he will fold to the raise most times I think, unless we are beat. If he calls the raise or reraises then we know we are in trouble and stop ourselves from losing more money on later streets.

Does anyone else play it the same?

[the crabs]

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I would raise this flop 95% of the time and be happy to take it down right there. Villain could easily have a low-mid pair or AK and I would prefer to take down the pot on the flop then risk a suck-out.

The villain's flop bet just looks like a standard continuation bet, and he will fold to the raise most times I think, unless we are beat. If he calls the raise or reraises then we know we are in trouble and stop ourselves from losing more money on later streets.

Does anyone else play it the same?

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yup

[Hail Eris]

I raise the flop maybe like 50%. If you ever raise this flop with like 33 and 78s when you whiff, you need to be doing it with AQ, too. Dunno what to say about the turn with no reads. Fold vs some, call vs others, but definitely call vs a complete unknown.

[KCrow]

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I would raise this flop 95% of the time and be happy to take it down right there. Villain could easily have a low-mid pair or AK and I would prefer to take down the pot on the flop then risk a suck-out.

The villain's flop bet just looks like a standard continuation bet, and he will fold to the raise most times I think, unless we are beat. If he calls the raise or reraises then we know we are in trouble and stop ourselves from losing more money on later streets.

Does anyone else play it the same?

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I think I call the flop and turn, raising the flop will result in worse hands folding and better ones calling. Surly we want to keep the worse hands in. I'd also fold to a reasonable sized river bet.

[BetweenTheLines]

I don't like raising the flop,it doesn't makes a lot
of sense.There are no draws,so you don't have to protect,
there are no better hands which will fold ,so why raise the flop and build a big pot in a way ahead way behind situation?

[monkeymaps]

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I would raise this flop 95% of the time and be happy to take it down right there. Villain could easily have a low-mid pair or AK and I would prefer to take down the pot on the flop then risk a suck-out.

The villain's flop bet just looks like a standard continuation bet, and he will fold to the raise most times I think, unless we are beat. If he calls the raise or reraises then we know we are in trouble and stop ourselves from losing more money on later streets.

Does anyone else play it the same?

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no if we raise with the intention of making villian fold, thats a bluff.

really no reason to raise here WA/WB spot I dont get folding turn I assumed your reads were that villan was solid or nit? assuming your line of thinking was that this board was so dry it was a bad spot to double barrel for villan?

[JackAll]

I don't like your pf slow play.

But if you do, I like the flop flat call (raising is suicide), and I think you have to call turn here since our hands looks much weaker than it is.

[nutstoyou]

I would call the turn. At these limits after you called the flop bet, I think the villain would have checked if he flopped a set on this board to see what you would do, hoping that you would bet for him and concerned you would fold if you didn't have a Q.

I'm not saying that is the right way for the villain to play this, but I think this is what most 50NL players on Poker Stars would do. So I think he could easily have KQ or even QJ.