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Maunzekater
08-28-2007, 07:18 PM
I have only 23 hands from villain, but he is a big donk for sure: 78/26/1.4

River card is really ugly, I don't think I can call his allin raise. My plan was to push if no 5,6 or 8 come on the river. Oh well..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

UTG ($17.05)
Hero ($37.75)
Button ($9.90)
SB ($36.45)
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($3) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($3) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $5.25.

River: ($17) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $26.75</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $43.75

Nick C
08-28-2007, 07:23 PM
The turn raise seems fine to me.

The river card is unfortunate, and I think the fold is good.

MoP_86
08-28-2007, 07:25 PM
reraise is optimal imo... easy river fold. WP

DopamineRelease
08-28-2007, 07:27 PM
I like the turn raise and the river fold. Terrible river card for your hand

mvdgaag
08-28-2007, 07:31 PM
I like to call preflop. A raise is not to bad though.

I play it the same... If he does this too often I start calling though. If he had the straight, wouldn't he be better off betting less? He's either vbetting too big, bluffing, or bluffing and vbetting this big. Try to find out which one. If he's a regular I might look him up after a couple of these bets to find out.

Maunzekater
08-28-2007, 08:18 PM
Thanks for your replies. Ok, then my play was reasonable at least. I hate playing against overly loose opponents in a vacuum (maybe he's bluffing or he's got the nuts and want me to think that he's bluffing).

VLV
08-28-2007, 08:24 PM
Just wondering, why does everyone think that hero shouldn't bet flop?

gcaash
08-28-2007, 08:43 PM
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Just wondering, why does everyone think that hero shouldn't bet flop?

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robinmbuk
08-28-2007, 09:02 PM
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Just wondering, why does everyone think that hero shouldn't bet flop?

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I bet that flop 100% of the time if I've raised pf and villian isn't a complete station. K46r is better but Q64r is still a nice flop.

youngKR
08-28-2007, 09:24 PM
I agree with robinmbuk.

OP could easily take down the pot right there, and if villain spews and calls well, hes going to get more money in after our turned 2 pair. Rivercard is unfortunate but I think its +EV to get a bet out there on the flop. Otherwise if turn card is brick and he bets we are a bit lost and could make a worse decision.

However, I would probably switch up my play here as well so OP played it fine using his line as well.

11t
08-28-2007, 09:31 PM
I agree

Snafu'd
08-28-2007, 09:31 PM
This is a perfect flop to cbet. Other than that, I think the hand looks good.

cooker3
08-28-2007, 09:34 PM
Yep I agree with the above
I prefer a continuation bet on the flop pretty much all the time.
Everything else looks perfect

Maunzekater
08-28-2007, 10:14 PM
Usually i cbet this flop all the time. I cbet ~90% when HU.
Maybe I was mixing it up at the wrong time :/
Everything had been much, much easier on the turn.

ajrees
08-28-2007, 10:21 PM
Bet the flop FTW.

DaycareInferno
08-28-2007, 10:33 PM
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Just wondering, why does everyone think that hero shouldn't bet flop?

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I bet that flop 100% of the time if I've raised pf and villian isn't a complete station. K46r is better but Q64r is still a nice flop.

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i bet this flop 100% of the time when villain IS a station. we have a 6!

mvdgaag
08-29-2007, 04:28 AM
Villain is 78/26, I don't mind a cbet, but I certainly don't mind a check either.

swarlley
08-29-2007, 05:19 AM
I donīt understand why you should cbet this flop, when villain most likely going to call anyway, and bottom pair canīt take this down often enough to make it profitable, right?

mvdgaag
08-29-2007, 05:23 AM
It would be because if he has nothing we have the best hand and if he has something we would build a pot to make bigger bets when we hit the straight. Also he is not calling anyway, he's calling way more often than he should.

EvanJC
08-29-2007, 05:28 AM
i guess i'm the only one who calls the river against this villian? :{