Manchild84
08-28-2007, 02:10 PM
Villain was relative unknown, but he was 30/20 or so over 30 hands.
Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))
SB: $56.05
BB: $95.35
Hero (UTG): $52.75
MP: $37.85
CO: $46.50
BTN: $49.25
Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $6.50</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $4.50
Flop: ($13.50) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $13.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $46.25</font>, SB calls $32.75
whyzze
08-28-2007, 02:11 PM
Fine with me...I would 4bet if I weren't UTG.
was he freerolling?
Manchild84
08-28-2007, 02:20 PM
OK. Thought it was std. but double-checking.
Results: He had AA, ldo.
Kimo White Devil
08-28-2007, 02:30 PM
I dont think it is standard at all. I know It say it in all AK thread, but please 4-bet shove it versus a 3-bet from SB with those stats (although sample size is small).
Its a fact : I know lot of REG who 3-bet my UTG raises and guess what, I have to fold most of them. So its clearly +EV to 3-bet an UTG raiser.
Love AK preflop, hate it afterwards.
Manchild84
08-28-2007, 02:34 PM
Kimo - If you hate it afterwards, how do you play that on flop?
.xxxx.
08-28-2007, 02:38 PM
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I dont think it is standard at all. I know It say it in all AK thread, but please 4-bet shove it versus a 3-bet from SB with those stats (although sample size is small).
Its a fact : I know lot of REG who 3-bet my UTG raises and guess what, I have to fold most of them. So its clearly +EV to 3-bet an UTG raiser.
Love AK preflop, hate it afterwards.
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Love AK pf if you're raising from the CO/BTN, and villain has these stats
considering OP led from UTG, even a 30/20 tightens his range vs an UTG open
mattnxtc
08-28-2007, 02:43 PM
I really dont know that I like this though I think without being results oriented that I am not sure what I would do.
With the way he bet that flop, I would think when we push and get called we are either way behind or getting freerolled by axkc (this was my initial read on him).
I tend to think I call ($39pot, $32stack) and get it in on any non club turn.
.xxxx.
08-28-2007, 02:52 PM
I'm not disagreeing with the flop push, but what range is everybody putting villain on?
I think its much closer between push > fold because villain's pot lead puts us in a crappy pot odd situation (1.7:1). I'm thinking {KK/images/graemlins/club.gif, QQ/images/graemlins/club.gif, JJ/images/graemlins/club.gif, AK/images/graemlins/club.gif, AQ/images/graemlins/club.gif, AJ/images/graemlins/club.gif, AT/images/graemlins/club.gif, AA, 22, 99}.
I added a few more AT+'s, considering villain is 30/20
Board: Ac 9c 2c
Hand 0: 47.995% 42.98% 05.02% 12765 1489.50 { AhKd }
Hand 1: 52.005% 46.99% 05.02% 13956 1489.50 { AA, KcKd, KcKh, KcKs, QcQd, QcQh, QcQs, JcJd, JcJh, JcJs, 99, 22, ATs+, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AdKc, AhKc, AsKc, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQc, AhQc, AsQc, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, AdJc, AhJc, AsJc, AcTd, AcTh, AcTs, AdTc, AhTc, AsTc }
Removing the AT/AJ's:
Hand 0: 42.178% 36.83% 05.34% 9481 1375.50 { AhKd }
Hand 1: 57.822% 52.48% 05.34% 13508 1375.50 { AA, KcKd, KcKh, KcKs, QcQd, QcQh, QcQs, JcJd, JcJh, JcJs, 99, 22, AQs+, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AdKc, AhKc, AsKc, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQc, AhQc, AsQc, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, AdJc, AhJc, AsJc, AcTd, AcTh, AcTs, AdTc, AhTc, AsTc }
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