KK to turn raise

[RobBizzle]

I was not sure where I was in this spot. It seems whenever I get raised on the turn I am behind. Thoughts?


Ultimate Bet - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $17.10
BB: $18.55
Hero (UTG): $60.60
MP: $48.95
CO: $19.90
BTN: $52.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.85</font>, BTN calls $3.85

Turn: ($11.95) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $24.00</font>, Hero???

[LT22]

hi Baluga thm

fold, reload, note

[Kimo White Devil]

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hi Baluga thm

shove, reload, note

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[RobBizzle]

If your looking at Baluga this is a fold right?

If not, could you explain why.

[shyturtle27]

According to baluga this is a total fold. He has slowplayed a set or str8 or something. You're not ahead here often enough to make a call or raise +EV so clearly fold.

[cooker3]

I despise how people just blindly follow some theorem, oh balugla says this so we should fold so I should fold etc

Anyway in this case I fold

[toddxlogan]

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I despise how people just blindly follow some theorem, oh balugla says this so we should fold so I should fold etc

Anyway in this case I fold

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Would you prefer if people instead just bothered to write something like "In general, against unknown players (or unremarkable players), 1-pair hands tend to be no good when facing turn raises (especially on scary boards), and because hero will likely be faced with the ability to make an even bigger mistake on the river in this situation, a fold is generally in order in said situation." ??

(Cause I don't really mind just seeing "consider x theorem; probably a fold")

OP: fold. standard.

[cooker3]

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I despise how people just blindly follow some theorem, oh balugla says this so we should fold so I should fold etc

Anyway in this case I fold

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Would you prefer if people instead just bothered to write something like "In general, against unknown players (or unremarkable players), 1-pair hands tend to be no good when facing turn raises (especially on scary boards), and because hero will likely be faced with the ability to make an even bigger mistake on the river in this situation, a fold is generally in order in said situation." ??

(Cause I don't really mind just seeing "consider x theorem; probably a fold")

OP: fold. standard.

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I am not talking about people just typing it, that doesn't bother me. I am talking about the mindset behind it and how they blindly follow a theorem and say well Balugla says this so I have to fold irrespective of the situation.

[toddxlogan]

Yeh, fair enough. As always "it depends." Hah.

[Bensku33]

fold

[XHitman014]

No reads at all? This is closer than a lot of people are saying. There are so many combo draws out there, could really see a AhJh/JhTh getting busy on the turn. Plus, I think a lot of TAGs will 3bet JJ/99 PF and will raise the flop since it's so drawy.

It's a pretty standard fold against an unknown but if this is a very aggressive player I can call profitably.

[DopamineRelease]

Almost always beat here after villains turn c/r, fold