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HoldEmNewby
08-27-2007, 09:32 PM
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $58.57
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $7.52
CO: $66.30
BTN: $27.08

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $62.30</font>, Hero?????

HoldEmNewby
08-27-2007, 09:52 PM
With a read this is an easy hand but against an unknown i really don't know what the proper line is. If i'm not calling with TP2K on this flop I'm really exploitable no?

RainbowBright
08-27-2007, 09:53 PM
meh...i think he probably raises 99 preflop right? i say call.

HoldEmNewby
08-27-2007, 09:55 PM
Is this ever anything but a set or a flush draw?

whyzze
08-27-2007, 09:56 PM
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Is this ever anything but a set or a flush draw?

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KK who's slowplay got ruined.

LT22
08-27-2007, 10:07 PM
sorry but you just have to fold in this situation

mookboi
08-27-2007, 10:16 PM
I stack off. Flush draw, Ax.

traz
08-27-2007, 10:29 PM
44, A9, A4...I fold everytime against an unknown

bored
08-27-2007, 10:36 PM
I fold this type of stuff vs an unknown. I'm not in a hurry to play big pots w/o information and all you have invested is a raise and a cbet.

ilya
08-27-2007, 10:39 PM
You would be really exploitable if the unknown somehow knew you would fold TP2K in this spot, and you didn't know that he knew. But since he is unknown he doesn't know. So I wouldn't worry about it here.

ilya
08-27-2007, 10:42 PM
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44, A9, A4...I fold everytime against an unknown

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lol what? you fold 44? come on

it is pretty close with AQ!

Snafu'd
08-27-2007, 10:51 PM
I'm pretty sure he's saying that the CO is likely to have those hands.

ilya
08-27-2007, 10:54 PM
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I'm pretty sure he's saying that the CO is likely to have those hands.

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I hope so

traz
08-27-2007, 10:59 PM
no way, I instamuck 44 here!

barryc83
08-27-2007, 11:04 PM
Fold this w/o a read, and never ever fold a set here. I think you see at least 2pr here a lot. This is some donk afraid of getting sucked out on more than a FD IME. Overbet shove is the nuts a lot.

ilya
08-27-2007, 11:06 PM
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no way, I instamuck 44 here!

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ok now you're just leveling me /images/graemlins/cool.gif

geekylucas
08-27-2007, 11:11 PM
Yeah, this is a clear fold I think.

Due to our strong PF raise from the BB position the villain is (correctly) trying to stack a top pair or TT+ hand by representing a flush draw. Assuming we're TAGish?

Pushing here looks like a semi-bluff but whenever I've called a shove in this situation I've been way behind 90% of the time. A flush draw is pretty rare in my experience.

2 pair or a set for sure.