Button vs. blind TP2ndK gets pushed on turn

[PleasureGuy69]

I don't think I've 3 bet him yet this session

Villain is 20/15/2

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $56.85
BB: $28.35
UTG: $101.75
CO: $33.95
BTN: $69.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Qh.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Kc.gif (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.50) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/3d.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/2d.gif http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Kh.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.50</font>, BTN calls $6.50

Turn: ($25.50) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/8d.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $56.75</font>, Hero ??

[stickdude]

If you're going to play this OOP, please bet more on the flop. A $10 bet on the flop makes a $32.50 pot on the turn with you having $40 behind - getting it all in at that point is a no-brainer.

As played, you have to call $28 to win a ~$85 pot, or about 3:1. Your bet on the turn basically told him you were playing for stacks, so I'm not sure you can fold this.

(btw, this is already the second hand I've seen today where someone's gotten themselves in a pickle 3-betting KQ and flopping top pair...)

[mvdgaag]

Don't 3bet this preflop...

Do you think you are ahead on this flop? Betting this small will create a $25 pot with $44 left. That means that on the turn, if you bet and he raises you will have too much left to be able to call with just one pair.

I call or fold preflop depending on the game, my image and the raiser.
As played to the flop I bet $13. That would leave us with $38 in a $38.50 pot on the turn that we can bet without giving him a chance to bluff.

I prefer to fold preflop at best call if he's bad postflop. You are OOP with an easilly dominated hand.

[PleasureGuy69]

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Don't 3bet this preflop...

Do you think you are ahead on this flop? Betting this small will create a $25 pot with $44 left. That means that on the turn, if you bet and he raises you will have too much left to be able to call with just one pair.

I call or fold preflop depending on the game, my image and the raiser.
As played to the flop I bet $13. That would leave us with $38 in a $38.50 pot on the turn that we can bet without giving him a chance to bluff.

I prefer to fold preflop at best call if he's bad postflop. You are OOP with an easilly dominated hand.

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You don't think that he has a wide raising range from the button? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[stickdude]

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You don't think that he has a wide raising range from the button? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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I'm fine with a 3-bet as a resteal if you think he's stealing, but once he calls the 3-bet, it narrows down his range considerably.

[mvdgaag]

Yes he might be stealing and I think it's ok to try to resteal, but it is very easy to get yourself in trouble later in a big pot with a hand that typically makes not much more than TPGK. Calling or 3betting more makes postflop easyer IMO, because you have clear decisions. Same goes for the flop betsize and the turn play as I put in my last post.