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toddxlogan
08-25-2007, 12:45 AM
Hi All-

Villain in this hand is a total unknown. These minraises are getting to be the goddamn death of me...

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $24.50
BB: $49.50
UTG: $44.70
Hero (BTN): $50.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.00

Flop: ($5.75) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00

Turn: ($21.75) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4.50</font>, Hero calls $4.50

River: ($30.75) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>,
EricDarland
08-25-2007, 12:51 AM
I'd probably 3 bet the flop. Bet about 20 on the river as played.
whyzze
08-25-2007, 12:55 AM
3bet the flop, you are very rarely behind here.
BevillTheDevil
08-25-2007, 01:02 AM
3bet flop and look to get AI. If the board was somethin like JKK or J99 then it would be dif IMO. I really cant give much credit to a 3x hand here.
toddxlogan
08-25-2007, 01:04 AM
Out of curiosity, what specifically does 3-betting the flop accomplish?
whyzze
08-25-2007, 01:07 AM
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Out of curiosity, what specifically does 3-betting the flop accomplish?

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gets value from jacks and gives poor odds to a flushdraw.
orange
08-25-2007, 03:51 AM
raise the turn.
Panic__NL
08-25-2007, 03:56 AM
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raise the turn.

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why would we raise the turn if it completes the FD?
orange
08-25-2007, 03:54 PM
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raise the turn.

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why would we raise the turn if it completes the FD?

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because his range is so much wider than that. 3-betting flop is also okay, but i'm not going to [censored] myself once a fd comes out if i do call the flop.
Ribsauce
08-25-2007, 04:15 PM
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I'd probably 3 bet the flop. Bet about 20 on the river as played.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't know how much calls on a paired three flush board that an overpair beats. I think I would take a showdown here with no reads