50NL: Playing a straight with a flush on board

[MoP_86]

Villain is 50/0/2 over 40 hands

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $50NL (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

SB ($43.75)
BB ($97.50)
UTG ($71.15)
Hero ($62.90)
Button ($51.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, UTG calls $4.50.

Turn: ($14.75) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($14.75) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $4.5, Hero?



Im obviously not folding... but do you raise or call?

[Mr. Ratface]

I raise and expect him to fold

[f1sh4d1nner]

IMO that utg bets more on river with flush so i would raise maybe to 15 or so, if he shoves then you have to re-evaluate.

[Bruut99]

Im calling here. Out of what hand do you want to extract value here by raising? Only getting called by a better hand imo.

[Poseidon65]

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Im calling here. Out of what hand do you want to extract value here by raising? Only getting called by a better hand imo.

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[f1sh4d1nner]

set-two pair? maybe im an idiot but yeah.

[xd40]

i would double barrel the turn

[Danielmk]

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set-two pair? maybe im an idiot but yeah.

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With this board i think only a poor player with set would call your raise , with 2 pairs 99% decent players will fold.
I will call his bet on the river with my straight but that's it, a raise is not worth here.

[MoP_86]

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i would double barrel the turn

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anyone else agree?

[Mr. Ratface]

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set-two pair? maybe im an idiot but yeah.

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With this board i think only a poor player with set would call your raise , with 2 pairs 99% decent players will fold.
I will call his bet on the river with my straight but that's it, a raise is not worth here.

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Most players are generally bad and I think there is value in a raise. I wouldn't raise it much, say 11-12 so that he may call with worst hands and it costs us less if he pushes and we decide to fold after reevaluating.

[f1sh4d1nner]

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set-two pair? maybe im an idiot but yeah.

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With this board i think only a poor player with set would call your raise , with 2 pairs 99% decent players will fold.
I will call his bet on the river with my straight but that's it, a raise is not worth here.

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But are 99% of the players playing 50nl all decent above average players?

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minraise

[EricDarland]

$12. You will get paid off by worse plenty

[QuadLaser]

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minraise

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[Danielmk]

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set-two pair? maybe im an idiot but yeah.

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With this board i think only a poor player with set would call your raise , with 2 pairs 99% decent players will fold.
I will call his bet on the river with my straight but that's it, a raise is not worth here.

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But are 99% of the players playing 50nl all decent above average players?

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Dont underestimate you opponent, is the biggest mistake, this player was bad true(50/0/2) but for me, raising is still not the best option. Maybe minraise in 10% cases because this opponent is bad, but 90% I will only call his bet.

[JROK777]

minraise

[11t]

Call, raising only gets your hand called by better hands which is =EV

[11t]

No you have position and you want to avoid being check raised and lose the ability to suck out if the 4th club hits and your q high flush is good

[Daniel LeClaire]

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i would double barrel the turn

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anyone else agree?

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No. Not against this clown. I think it's just burning money. As played I would raise to $12. Also, LOL at people thinking that this guy never calls with worse hands. He's a 50VPIP!!

[monkeymaps]

wow lots of weird thinking in this thread!!

good hand played well
small raise on the river and expect to get called.

to address others points
why would you raise if you expected villan to fold?(thats a bluff)
betting turn is soooo gross take the free card cause this guy is going to pay us off when we hit.

[MoP_86]

Results: I raised to 12 and Villain folded.

Thanks for your input fellas