A loose call preflop, leads to a combo draw...

[HoldEmNewby]

Preflop call is definitly my bad. Moving on:

Stats:
MP runs at 17/12/2.6
BTN runs at 15/11/2.8
No Reads.
I'm sandwhiched between two TAGS, when MP cbets into two opponents I weigh his range heavily to AK,KQ,AA,44. I'm pretty sure I'm behind and stoving his range puts me as a dog. Is raising still the best line here?

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SB: $97.61
BB: $43.43
UTG: $85.48
MP: $49.25
Hero (CO): $50.79
BTN: $64.77

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.50</font>, Hero calls $2.50, BTN calls $2.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.75) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $7.00</font>,Hero???

PokerStove:

Hand 0: 44.050% 43.13% 00.92% 19938252 427183.50 { AsJs }
Hand 1: 55.950% 55.03% 00.92% 25439589 427183.50 { AA, 4c4d, 4c4h, 4d4h, AcKc, AdKd, AhKh, KcQc, KdQd, KhQh, AcKd, AcKh, AdKc, AdKh, AhKc, AhKd, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh, KcQd, KcQh, KcQs, KdQc, KdQh, KdQs, KhQc, KhQd, KhQs }

[Micro Donk]

youre counting the As in his range when you have it

[Micro Donk]

also you should include KK and JJ in his range, hes def betting that.

[HoldEmNewby]

I'm so mush right now. Yeah but revising the range doesn't change much:
Hand 0: 43.077% 42.27% 00.81% 21713215 415071.50 { AsJs }
Hand 1: 56.923% 56.11% 00.81% 28825762 415071.50 { AcAd, AcAh, AdAh, KcKd, KcKh, KdKh, JdJh, 4c4d, 4c4h, 4d4h, AdKd, AhKh, KcQc, KdQd, KhQh, AcKd, AcKh, AdKc, AdKh, AhKc, AhKd, KcQd, KcQh, KcQs, KdQc, KdQh, KdQs, KhQc, KhQd, KhQs }


can i get a line gentlemen?

[EMc]

Me likes a 3 bet PF sometimes, Id probably do it occusionally here

On to the hand, play it like you have 44 IMO. RAise it up and call a shoveizzle, as you will be commited. Just make sure you raise enough that you can call his shove.

[HoldEmNewby]

Raise to $30???

[Jouster777]

Can you explain the logic behind[ QUOTE ]
Just make sure you raise enough that you can call his shove.

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I see that from time to time and it has never made sense to me. Couldn't this be just as easily be phrased make sure you commit yourself so you can't get away? What's the advantage vs. a shove?

Edit: for the hand in question I think a big raise/shove vs call are about the same. I wouldn't fold though.