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Nogatsira
08-23-2007, 06:15 PM
villain has an AF of 6, check/raising is really scary by someone like that right?
And don't give me a "YOU GOT TOP 2 INSTACALL" answer, some reasoning might be good

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($24.65)
BB ($25)
UTG ($1.95)
Hero ($42.45)
CO ($28.85)
Button ($78.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.25) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $9</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($21.25) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $14.9 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

wslee00
08-23-2007, 06:17 PM
sorry - dunno how you can possibly give this up

and how does c/r'ing affect AF? I figure an AF of 6 is MORE of a reason to just push the flop.

Nogatsira
08-23-2007, 06:18 PM
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sorry - dunno how you can possibly give this up

and how does c/r'ing affect AF? I figure an AF of 6 is MORE of a reason to just push the flop.

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His 6 means he's betting like everything, checking a flop after beeing the preflop agressor seems really like a set

Micro Donk
08-23-2007, 06:23 PM
push over his flop raise

he can have QJ, a club draw, AK, KQ...

you beat a lot more than when beats you. shove over his flop raise, i call the turn and hope he didnt have the club draw

wslee00
08-23-2007, 06:23 PM
i mean - what do you put him on? you would have to put him exactly on a set to have you beat and you already have a K and a T which makes KK/TT very unlikely. So you would basically have to put him on 77 for you to fold. I think the onus is on you to tell us why you think this is a fold.

Ikaika
08-23-2007, 06:23 PM
Some more stats beyond his aggression might be helpful.

Nogatsira
08-23-2007, 06:24 PM
i really put him on a set here, something made me feel he was really strong cause usually he bet out every single hand

traz
08-23-2007, 06:25 PM
shove flop

wslee00
08-23-2007, 06:26 PM
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i really put him on a set here, something made me feel he was really strong cause usually he bet out every single hand

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dunno what advice we can give you then - if this is a gut instinct thing, then that's all you. as far as the advice you're going to get on this forum - the consensus will always be shove flop

QuietEarner
08-23-2007, 06:36 PM
Fold PF.

Nogatsira
08-23-2007, 06:37 PM
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i really put him on a set here, something made me feel he was really strong cause usually he bet out every single hand

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dunno what advice we can give you then - if this is a gut instinct thing, then that's all you. as far as the advice you're going to get on this forum - the consensus will always be shove flop

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You're indeed right. The correct play would probably be to shove but it was indeed a gut instinct thing

shoxbb6
08-23-2007, 06:42 PM
If he has an AF of 6 over a decent sample, he's very, very aggro. Ie capable of check/raising with more than just the nuts, so get it all in on the flop

BishopsFinger
08-23-2007, 06:48 PM
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If he has an AF of 6 over a decent sample, he's very, very aggro. Ie capable of check/raising with more than just the nuts, so get it all in on the flop

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i also shove over the flop but i have to say the 3-4 occasions when this has happened this month i have been ahead 0% of the time.

MoP_86
08-23-2007, 06:51 PM
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Fold PF.

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