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thoman8r
08-19-2007, 08:26 AM
Villain is running 37/7/.7 over 153 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($7.90)
MP ($6.20)
CO ($4.60)
Hero ($12.30)
SB ($36.35)
BB ($12.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.40, MP calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.55) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($5.55) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3.7 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???.

Also, does anyone prefer a fold or a shove instead of a call on the flop?

whyzze
08-19-2007, 08:29 AM
All you have here is an OESD not to the nuts. Your pair is now completely irrelevant. this is a fold.

I do prefer a fold or shove if he makes a real raise.

Rednas
08-19-2007, 08:37 AM
Fold preflop?
Flopcall is good I think. You have to improve on the turn, but you didn't, so it's an easy fold

shark_fishin
08-19-2007, 08:42 AM
tbh, i wouldnt raise 87os when a short stack has limped.
as played, i would probably put him all in on the flop, he probably has a TP and assuming all 13 of your outs are clean you have 52% chance of winning, probably not much fold equity, but with 13 outs its fine here imo, anyone disagrea?

JackAll
08-19-2007, 08:42 AM
He is too short stacked to flat call flop cuz you don't have odds. Fold or push flop.

thoman8r
08-19-2007, 08:49 AM
Meant to mention - not interested in pre-flop. I know it was loose and it had a lot to do with table dynamics.

choccypie
08-19-2007, 08:58 AM
I'd have shoved the flop, but as played fold the turn, you only have a pair and it's not worth you chasing your SD.

thoman8r
08-19-2007, 12:05 PM
FWIW, I did fold but after plugging the numbers into pokerstove it seemed more marginal than I originally thought. If I had to do it again I would have shoved the flop I think.