Set of 4's vs. potential straight good fold?

[zer0c0ntr0l1278]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($33.25)
BB ($25.90)
UTG ($14.60)
UTG+1 ($11.90)
MP1 ($29.75)
MP2 ($29.65)
CO ($24.25)
Button ($16.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif.
[color=#CC3333]UTG raises to $0.75</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.75, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($3.25) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](4 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $2</font>, UTG calls $2, UTG+1 folds, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($9.25) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $5</font>, Hero folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $9.25

[yellowbastard]

Bet more on the flop. You want to play for stacks against an overpair.

Call the turn. The guy might have just paired a 5 or made two pair. Even if he has a str8 you still have 10 outs to fill up.

[mellonBALLER]

bet pot on flop. call the turn, it's ~2:1 to call, you're prolie ahead and, as yellow said, you still got outs.

[Student Caine]

You are getting ~3:1 to call and you have 10 outs to a monster, which we can probably get paid on if we really believes that he has the straight here. I have a really hard time folding when I am getting 3:1 here (we need to get 3.6:1 for our 10 outs). If we really think that we have no way of getting enough out of him when we hit then I fold...but I have a hard time believing that this is true.

The only possible concern that I see here is that there is still one player left to act. Calling $5 and then folding to a raise would suck. If we use this as a reason for folding I can buy that...I would need to know more about the player waiting to act though to make a good decision. With no reads I call though.

Bonus Grunch!:

Preflop: I actually probably fold this preflop. I do not like small pp's out of position against a raise.

Flop: You have to either bet more or go for a check raise. Depending on UTG's and Button's AF I decide which I am going to do. I am not going to make a 2/3 bet into 3 players with a flush draw and straight out there.

Turn: Like I said before, I call here.

[Student Caine]

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it's ~2:1 to call

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I see 3:1 (pot is $9.25 when button bets $5 into us)...am I doing bad math?

[yapee]

Isn't it like Hero's checking the turn after donking the river made villain think he has the best hand/can bluff his way out, where "best hand" is not necessarily a straight?

[bored]

This goes in full ring.

I call this pf with all those callers.

Bet more on the flop.

As played, shove the turn. If he pushes the river you will have to call anyway due to stack sizes, so just get AI now.

[zer0c0ntr0l1278]

Thanks guys I should have been more aggressive with this.

[anthb7210p]

grunching - bet 3+ on flop to give draws worse odds to call.
Turn is a fold. With a 4 straight or 4 flush on the board, usually if you don't have it you should fold w/o reads. The effective stack size is too small to pay you off if you hit your FH.