kind of a sick spot deep.. do you play it different?

[ssdex]

just assume villain is a decent tag---no real reads

leading turn this deep is bad imo--- 9c is like the gin card of all draws--- i think hes betting made hands on turn---so river card doesnt seem bad so i just c/c--- do you play this hand different?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($10.85)
MP ($137.15)
Button ($52.55)
Hero ($126.40)
BB ($47.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, Hero calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, BB folds, MP calls $11, Button folds.

Turn: ($42) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($42) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24.

Final Pot: $90

[derosnec]

that's a weak flop raise. pot it because on that flop they will call a zillion hands.

[Snafu'd]

I think your flop raise is way too small. This is very much an action flop and you need to get the money in now and make it unprofitable for your opponents to come along for the ride. I'm probably raising it the pot here so somewhere around $20 to $24 looks good.

[cb4mvp]

Raise bigger on the flop. I would probably check the turn too, just for some semblance of pot control, and I would fold river, but there's probably nothing wrong with a call either I guess.

[TheBobn]

I like bet/fold on the river, lotta two pair hands might call

[ssdex]

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I like bet/fold on the river, lotta two pair hands might call

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really... bet fold? Im not sure i feel very comfortable with that line with so much $ behind and the fact we could easily be bluffed off the best hand.

[HBomb]

I don't think they'd be willing to bluff at this point, depending on how good they think you are, 90% of the time they're probably not raising you, unless you are beat with clubs or the 10.

[Upgrade_U]

pot sized raise on the flop and shove any turn, if you're behind then there are still outs for FH

[tarheeljks]

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pot sized raise on the flop and shove any turn, if you're behind then there are still outs for FH

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gross, we're to deep for this

[kaz2107]

i dont mind the flop raise. prolly make it a buck or 2 more but blah who cares really.

but tha river is deffinatly a bet fold. there is 0% chance if u make a real bet on the river that he "bluffs u off the best hand." no sane person shoves or raises the river without the flush here. the key is to make a strong bet on the river. if u make a weakish bet on the river thinkin "well imma fold n e wayz if he raises imma make it smaller" then u show that weakness and u will in fact get bluffed off a few more times.

so make a 3/4ths pot bet on the river and fold to a minraise or more. he will call this bet with KQ+ here and will only raise hands that are better. so much more +ev then c/c here

[traz]

Everyone likes the turn check?

If villain bets $35 on the turn, what's the play?